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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:32 am 
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"They've got to have a spiel for every scenario and it's passed on down from R&D to the guy in the bike shop!"

We can only dream of a world where R&D guys are calling the shots from the top down :D

As a matter of course, I'm afraid the marketing and/or finance departments have the most pull...

-Tim


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:47 am 
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The R&D lingo / explanations are probably too confusing for most consumers to understand, so that's where the salesmen earn their $$s.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:42 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:18 pm 
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i guess we 've all been waiting for a niche frame that would reset the frame building standards in a similar way to what the LW wheels caused when they first entered the market. Unfortunately, that was not the case, as it seems we are dealing with just another top end frame like all the others. No breakthroughs here, nothing to see, nothing to get me drooling.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 12:56 pm 
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Stumbled on this thread. Seems marketing of these bikes has picked up in my area. What struck me is how similar this bikes geometry comes to the Canondale EVO black. Do they perform the same and could they be built out of the same Far East factory?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 17, 2014 9:51 pm 
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The frame is nothing like the Evo.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 1:18 am 
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Ok, that's settled then... :roll:

According to my intel, the LW frame is obviously heavier, but stiffer (the Cannondale is not super stiff. (Not saying that it should be)), and app. as comfortable as the Evo.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:25 am 
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lightweight the german pinarello....

http://www.roadbike.de/rennraeder/test- ... latt.9.htm

vs bmc-teammachine-slr01

http://www.roadbike.de/rennraeder/test- ... latt.9.htm

vs simplon-pavo-3

http://www.roadbike.de/rennraeder/test- ... latt.9.htm

vs scott-addict-s

http://www.roadbike.de/rennraeder/test- ... latt.9.htm

vs cannondale-supersix-evo-black

http://www.roadbike.de/rennraeder/test- ... latt.9.htm

vs focus-izalco-max-team

http://www.roadbike.de/rennraeder/test- ... latt.9.htm

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:30 am 
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Mario Jr. wrote:
Ok, that's settled then... :roll:
Look at the two frames side by side. The closest resemblance is that they are black. :)


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 11:55 am 
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@petal666 Sorry, I was sure you ment that the LW frame was inferior to the Cannondale....


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:30 pm 
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Well that too. :-)


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