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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 7:08 pm 
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I would get the new 7 series Madone and train by heart rate. I don't see any advantage in power other than being able to benchmark a number for comparisons to others. But training by HR will make you every bit as fit as training with power.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:18 pm 
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You don't use it to compare to others, you compare your own data. Ie., HR may be the same down the line while you are getting more fit and putting out more power with less effort. So, 170 hr may mean 240w in april 2010 and 300w in June 2011. It's really a good measure and anyone using one properly will tell you the same.

I always wonder why these 10K bikes don't ship with power meters. Anyone using a bike like that is going to want one unless the bike is a luxury item.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:41 am 
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hatone wrote:

Quarq with Di2 is a little troublesome - google it.


Unless I've missed something,,,?



Hmmm I've never googled it... Having said that I run a mixture of three BB30 & GXP Quarqs across my bikes with Di2 and I've never had any compatibility issues. Only issue I had was trying to run a GXP quarq on a BBright frame with enduro adapters.... Never again!!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:43 am 
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tinozee wrote:
I always wonder why these 10K bikes don't ship with power meters. Anyone using a bike like that is going to want one unless the bike is a luxury item.


Ha! All 10k bikes are luxury items.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:16 am 
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NealH wrote:
I would get the new 7 series Madone and train by heart rate. I don't see any advantage in power other than being able to benchmark a number for comparisons to others. But training by HR will make you every bit as fit as training with power.



Wow, I couldn't disagree more. IMO a powermeter will do more for your fitness and training than any bike frame will ever do.

Sort of taken back by this post.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:55 am 
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Get an SRM this time and a new bike next time and next and...
I'm still on SRM V and they just keeps on working.

+ the sooner you get data to monitor your progress (or decline when that age comes:()
the more data you have to compare to obviously.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:26 pm 
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I say get the bike. I had an SRM and looking at numbers while training and racing took the fun out of it and slowed me down.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:10 pm 
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Bike, take it from someone who has a Quarq. It is interesting to know the numbers and see progress you might make, but it doesn't magically make you any better. It is a tool that can be used to gauge performance and fitness.

Get a Quarq, less money AND a frame. Instead of a SRM.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:50 pm 
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Zigmeister wrote:
Bike, take it from someone who has a Quarq. It is interesting to know the numbers and see progress you might make, but it doesn't magically make you any better. It is a tool that can be used to gauge performance and fitness.

Get a Quarq, less money AND a frame. Instead of a SRM.



Well...........no......the numbers don't make you better. It's the application of the collection of data to a training plan.

This isn't debatable is it? I mean, PM's aren't a flash in the pan gimmick. Take it from someone with a Quarq......

Side note: how many bike frames have made you "magically better"?

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Mine bike added a mile per hour to my average speed on my regular loop!





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Question for the OP. hatone, are you racing? From your use of the word "training" it sounds like you are. So, genuinely, a PM and a means to apply the knowledge (read: a coach) are going to give you more 'bang for your buck'*. It's also not as if the present bike is a hunk of junk either.


*this is just from my experiences, racing National and UCI level for the past 18 months

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:29 am 
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PM for sure OP. If you are racing, why not both as some mentioned? If you aren't happy, I am sure you could sell your bike and get a PM and a new bike. A CAAD10 would be a great bike for racing since you wouldn't lose much if you crashed your frame in a race. As someone else mentioned, maybe look into a Quarq instead of a SRM?


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