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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 5:59 am 
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Out of curiosity and a bit off topic, as I am thinking buying new groups, how would you compare DA9000 / UG6800 vs Chorus or Record 11 in terms of shifting performance and overall feel?? DA seems to have better tech and niceties like coated cable and all that jazz.


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Without this turning the other thread in to a 'Campag vs Shimano' debate (which is why I split the topic), the difference will still come down to your personal preference. Ie: do you like thumb shifters, hood shape, brake modulation/power, are your other bikes Campag or Shimano, etc

9000 is the smoothest road grouppo I've ridden - and I have Campag on all my personal bikes. That said, my team is breaking a lot of RD cables due to the new lining. So 9000 is not, presently, without some drawbacks.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 8:04 am 
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Shimano rear shifting is much smoother than the Campy, less noisy too, Campy is a bit faster, the problem is in the front, Shimano requires 2 trim, the lower trim really bothers me, no trim is needed for Campy.


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No trim needed for 9000...

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:15 am 
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Tinea Pedis wrote:
No trim needed for 9000...

I was talking about Ultegra 11 speed.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:19 am 
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I never noticed any need for that on the 6800 bikes I rode either.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:43 am 
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Tinea Pedis wrote:
I never noticed any need for that on the 6800 bikes I rode either.


The FD low adjustment (chain is 0.5mm away from the inner cage of the FD), This is also the low trim position.

you will land on another index ( low position) when you shift from the bigger chainring to the smaller chainring, at this position, the rear 3 big cogs will rub the chain, you need to click again go to the low trim position to avoid the rub.

there are total of 4 indexes low trim-low -top trim-top.

the reason you never noticed the rub is probably the skid plate, the skid plate will make the rub silent, but the rub is there.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:47 am 
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Anyone who has setup the Shimano 11 speed FD would know what I am talking about, need to put lot of tension on the derailleur cable.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:53 am 
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Interesting discussion and thanks for splitting the thread TP. I am brand agnostic mostly when it comes to road bike equipments. I run Shimano 105 10 Speed on a Ridley Fenix bike and pretty much like the aesthetic of both DA9000 and Chorus. Slightly prefer Thumb shifters. I asked about DA9000 performance specifically because many people said it shifts a lot better than Red (though haven't read much vs Campy 11). Having said that I have no problem with my 105 which shifts almost always perfectly.

Guess I will go with Campy after all.


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With shifters Chorus is identical to Record, and almost so in every other part too. Chorus is by far the best value in Campy 11 spd.

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To be really annoying and cnut the thread up a bit...

It seems to me that a 9000 chainset would work ok with 11 speed Campag set up right?


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Totally fine (have done it).

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And risked scorn from the world of bike fashion? Brave man.

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