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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:54 pm 
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If you could get that to work the NDS crank arm would be 11mm farther out from the centerline of the bike than the DS arm.

I think that would mess up ergonomics quite a bit.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:22 pm 
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eric wrote:
I think that would mess up ergonomics quite a bit.
Based on what I read about BBright, that seems a forgone conclusion regardless of the crank.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:39 pm 
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If the crank actually fits BBright it'll put the pedals in the right place. The NDS is no wider than external bearing cups on a BSA BB or BB92/86.
Many cranks have spindles long enough for BBright. It's just the short spindle BB30 ones that don't fit.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:08 pm 
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With all the lightweight cranks available at present I just don't get the continued fascination with mating a Hollowgram to a BSA BB :noidea:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 7:51 pm 
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just pulled the trigger on a cervelo edition 3d+ crankset incl. q-rings. better looking than regular graphics IMO.

will pair them w rotors ceramic BSA bearings.

Not what I was gunning for but its getting me exited all the same - i love new gear! cant wait.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:03 pm 
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bricky21 wrote:
I just don't get the continued fascination with mating a Hollowgram to a BSA BB :noidea:
Yeah, that it a valid point but that argument is not quite as valid when you are talking about mating a 'hollowgram SRM' on a time trial bike with a BSA 24 bottom bracket shell and have even considered having the alloy insert in the carbon bottom bracket shell machined to accept PF30 bottom bracket. :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 4:37 am 
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Clavicula M3 SRM is cheaper and would be really close in weight possibly even lighter after modifications to the Hollowgram. It fits on everything too. Has anyone actually machined out a BSA frame to take a PF30? That would be an interesting read. I suppose I get it if you already own the crank.


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To answer the SiSL2/bbright question: according to my measurements, using the 109mm spindle but accepting the too-narrow chainline that the 104mm spindle gave, you are still about 2mm short. The left arm will contact the lip of the pf30 cup. I wanted to try it on an r5ca (which is bbright but with direct bearings, so no extra lip), but my friend that owns one wouldn't let me mess with it...

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thisisatest wrote:
using the 109mm spindle... you are still about 2mm short. The left arm will contact the lip of the pf30 cup.
Again, all cojecture but sounds like a Cannondale Hollowgram 122mm Mountain Spindle with the ridge machined off would solve that problem.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 30, 2013 6:59 pm 
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Would the Q be the same on both sides? And what would the total Q be?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:24 am 
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All I know is member "Rogntudju" did just that cannondale sisl2 on a Open O 1.0 bbright frame. See pictures here.viewtopic.php?f=10&t=103751

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 12:47 pm 
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Jrock,
mountain bikes are a completely different story. the SiSl2 mountain crank uses a 132mm spindle, there is plenty of axle to fit it to whatever you want, once the lip is machined off...


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 5:00 pm 
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From the other thread

He used a 122 spindle 104/109 + 11 = 121

The real issue is that the spindle has raised bearing races that are not in line with the PF bearings.

He had to have the old raised bearing races machined down and new ones built up

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