HOT: Active* forum members generally gain 5% discount at starbike.com store!
Weight Weenies
* FAQ    * Search    * Trending Topics
* Login   * Register
HOME Listings Articles FAQ Contact About




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 127 posts ] 
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 9  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:11 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 3:37 am
Posts: 45
Anyone know more details about the new Scott Addict SL?
http://www.bikerumor.com/2013/06/28/sco ... ct-sl-yet/

Video is long and mostly uninformative...

Wondering about price and weights.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: 2014 Scott Addict SL
Posted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 3:11 pm 


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:40 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:20 am
Posts: 375
Location: Glasgow, Scotland
There was a claim on Bikeradar that the frame & fork is bellow 1kg combined, which is quite impressive if true. However, not as light as I would have hoped... Given that a decent fork weighs what, 300g? It doesn't make for an insanely light frame.

Here is the Bikeradar article, it also includes some claimed weights for the models other than the top one:
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... kes-37751/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Edit: The article seems to have been updated - Frame weight for a 55cm was 741g, for 278g with an uncut steerer.
Cost for the top of the line model is 8000 Euros.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 5:25 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:14 am
Posts: 1224
Location: by Crystal Springs (Sawyer Creek Trail)
Nothing special. That weight is higher than the lightest Evo and much higher than an RCA. Hell, it's higher than the R5CA


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:14 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2007 1:57 pm
Posts: 7366
Location: San Francisco, CA
1 kg frame + fork is extremely light for a mass-volume production frame. I wouldn't count the Cervelo RCa: it's $10k frame + fork alone and only 300 are available (AFAIK). It's almost certainly lighter than the Evo.

There's a nicely done video here.

Interesting is they make a claim in wind resistance. I thought the Addict was in the fatty-tube category: wind be damned.

Photos appear to have a truncated airfoil profile to the down tube, similar to a Foil, so perhaps that's it.

_________________
http://djconnel.blogspot.com/
Fuji SL/1
\


Last edited by djconnel on Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:52 am
Posts: 640
scott claims 25% lower drag than previous addict. should equal the cervelo/madone on aero drag. the weight is impressive. ww need to remember

rca is built around proprietary BBright. when you run heavy rotor adapter the rca is over 700gm. the addict fork is lighter than the rca.

e.g

shimano press fit bb86 weighs 65gm vs 137 for rotor 24 adapter.....memo to cervelo dump the bbright and go with shimano bb86 or bb386.


http://www.rotorbike.com/products/road/ ... t-frame_43

PRESS FIT 4624 for BBRIGHT frames

Acero (negro) 137g,
Cerámico (rojo) 128g.
Aluminio anodizado, grabado láser.
Mecanizado en torno CNC con AL 7075 T6 tratado.
Sellos de silicona y tubo interno (menor contaminación, menos mantenimiento).

_________________
Current Rides:

2014 Trek 7.9 PO 9070 di2


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 6:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:38 pm
Posts: 292
Love my 2010 Addict, but I work for a Scott dealer and this could be very tempting.

_________________
Blog: http://thesetbackpost.com/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:56 pm 
Online

Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:22 am
Posts: 1270
Location: Zion
Someone pop on it!
Report back ASAP.

_________________
My sub-5.6kg / 12.32lb Addict R1

My ~9.3kg / ~20.5lb Scale 29 Pro


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:59 pm 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:08 am
Posts: 7406
Location: Geeeelong!
As far as adverts go, Scott nailed it with that one. It's terrific.

Very nice looking machine too! Can see there being a lot of them on here soon.

_________________
http://www.nicksquillari.com.au Forum Jedi


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:08 pm 
Offline
Carbon Cowboy
User avatar

Joined: Sat Sep 04, 2010 7:20 pm
Posts: 975
Location: Slovenia
djconnel wrote:
1 kg frame + fork is extremely light for a mass-volume production frame. I wouldn't count the Cervelo RCa: it's $10k frame + fork alone and only 300 are available (AFAIK). .../


+1
(and the frameset might be around 1/3 of the RCa price)

_________________
Berk PROTO-TYPE Composites - Handmade In Slovenia
Berk Composites
http://www.berk-composites.com/
info(a)berk-composites.com


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:57 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Jun 29, 2008 4:40 am
Posts: 15
Looks very nice.Would be a good replacement for my aging Gios Carbon V107 :)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:01 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:14 am
Posts: 1224
Location: by Crystal Springs (Sawyer Creek Trail)
spartan wrote:
scott claims 25% lower drag than previous addict. should equal the cervelo/madone on aero drag. the weight is impressive. ww need to remember

rca is built around proprietary BBright. when you run heavy rotor adapter the rca is over 700gm. the addict fork is lighter than the rca.

e.g

shimano press fit bb86 weighs 65gm vs 137 for rotor 24 adapter.....memo to cervelo dump the bbright and go with shimano bb86 or bb386.


http://www.rotorbike.com/products/road/ ... t-frame_43" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

PRESS FIT 4624 for BBRIGHT frames

Acero (negro) 137g,
Cerámico (rojo) 128g.
Aluminio anodizado, grabado láser.
Mecanizado en torno CNC con AL 7075 T6 tratado.
Sellos de silicona y tubo interno (menor contaminación, menos mantenimiento).


Or you could just get THM BBright bottom bracket at 91 grams. The Cervelo's weight includes hardware such as front and rear derailleur hangers, all bottle cage bolts, the grommets for the cable routing, and the seatpost clamp.

In other words, the frame alone is in the 620 grams range. Even with the weight added by the THM BB, it's still about 100 grams lighter than the Addict. I'm not sure how much lighter the Addict fork is than the Cervelo fork. The whole steerer tube of the RCA is covered with the Nanovate coating so it is likely that it will lose more weight in cutting the steerer than the Scott. Maybe 20 grams heavier in the end, depends on how much steerer these forks are measured with. The RCA also includes an integrated magnet. I don't think the Addict has that.

Yes the RCA is considered a "limited" production frame. But if it is valid for the Protour, it is certainly the valid benchmark.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:21 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:58 am
Posts: 818
Location: 604
This is getting a bit ridiculous. Is there a white paper on the steer tube coating and comparative densities? Let it go.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:36 am 
Offline

Joined: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:48 am
Posts: 1049
djconnel wrote:
1 kg frame + fork is extremely light for a mass-volume production frame. .... It's almost certainly lighter than the Evo.

Very good point, most people keep pushing the corrected weight numbers for the EVO when almost no-one has had a frame come in anywhere near those claims.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 7:41 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:14 am
Posts: 1224
Location: by Crystal Springs (Sawyer Creek Trail)
coating vs no coating adds weight. Pretty simple, given that Cervelo has shown that they can make sub 300 gram uncut forks easily.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: 2014 Scott Addict SL
PostPosted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:18 am 
Offline
in the industry
User avatar

Joined: Sun Dec 16, 2007 9:33 pm
Posts: 713
Location: Luxembourg / Sweden
The Cervelo RCa fork we have here weighed in at 300g ++ uncut *. It looks remarkably like a 3T Rigida fork with some small differences apart from the coating. The Rigida LTD weighs 275g on the same scale btwy. The old Ca fork was well south of 300g and made by THM in Germany.

Quite normal practice in the industry to show pre production units to the press to establish a weight that then becomes the norm in the blogs, forums etc......


Sorry for off topic but credit where credit's due!

* the corresponding frame, a 56, is 677g plus der hanger and hardware (fd included).

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD

_________________
Technical Artisans


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: 2014 Scott Addict SL
Posted: Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:18 am 


Top
  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 127 posts ] 
Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 ... 9  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Doolop, Google [Bot], Herb5998, thencameyou and 34 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

   Similar Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. 2014 Scott Addict frame assembly question

in Road

ellie

7

859

Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:40 pm

ellie View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. 2014 Scott Addict SL broken steerer tube

in Road

tth86

5

590

Thu Oct 09, 2014 12:17 pm

wheelsONfire View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Pinarello F8 or Scott Addict SL

[ Go to page: 1, 2, 3 ]

in Road

Tricky76

32

1893

Fri Aug 22, 2014 4:25 pm

villahidalgo View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. the old scott addict: still a top level frame???

in Road

prebsy

10

2038

Mon Jan 13, 2014 7:43 pm

poully View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Scott Addict LTD seatmast topper options?

in Road

ninjaman

2

429

Wed May 28, 2014 3:03 pm

ninjaman View the latest post


It is currently Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:15 am

All times are UTC + 1 hour




Advertising   –  FAQ   –  Contact   –  Convert   –  About

© Weight Weenies 2000-2013
hosted by starbike.com


How to get rid of these ads? Just register!


Powered by phpBB