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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:52 pm 
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So I recently got a hold of this 2013 Reynolds Solace wheelset, just so I could scratch my itch for trying tubeless.

And first thing I notice when I install them is the rear wheel is nowhere near being centered in my Cervelo RS frame, I've got like 2mm of clearance between the seatstays and chainstays on the left side of the frame, I can still ride on them just fine as there's no possibility of rubbing the frame, but it's really bothering the hell out of me that is not seating properly.

I haven't gone to the bike shop and measure the dish on the wheel, I'd hate to think that Reynolds would build a wheel that off-centered. The other though it might be that it has the wrong end caps on the hub and it's what's 'pushing' the damn thing to the left. I've emailed Reynolds twice like two weeks ago and haven't heard a thing from them. (Deleted my unfair rant towards Reynolds Cycling)



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:59 pm 
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I had this on my frame when I first got it but I found that it only happened with one particular skewer I had. It didn't fit right with the frame and wouldn't let the wheel seat properly. I switched out the skewers and the problem was solved.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:56 pm 
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Safely assuming your previous wheels did sit straight in the frame?
The next step is to make sure your wheel is dished correctly. New wheels can be out of dish for a variety of reasons. The most common one is when a wheel is switched from campy to shimano or vise versa. Thankfully, the new 11 speed shimano should solve this issue.
Use a dishing tool to make certain your wheel is dished correctly. No dishing tool you say? There are ways around that as well. Set the wheel on two stacks of books or magazines or anything else that you can get it to sit on. measure the distance from the floor to the point where the dropout rests against the frame. (not the end of the axle) Flip the wheel over and measure again. If those two distances aren't identical. Your wheel isn't dished. Do this with your tire at full pressure though. Your dish could be very different with or without air in your tires. If you've determined that your wheel isn't dished correctly. Have someone who understands wheel tension dish it for you (if you don't know how to do it yourself)
It was easy to dish an old school 36, 32 or 28 hole wheel. The newer ones with higher spoke tensions are abit tougher to get right.
Oh,, and make sure there isn't any debris in the dropouts.lol


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:18 pm 
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vwo05:
I will check with a different skewer, haven't had a problem with my ZIPP skewers on two different wheelsets, but hey it's worth a try.

boolinwall:

Great info and suggestions there, I will check the dish the way you described in your post. It's the first rear wheel I install in this frame with this problem. I will dismount the tire and check if the wheel is centered as well, thanks a lot for your help guys.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 10:57 pm 
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I had an issue where the dropout hanger was not as tight as it should be. Tightening those screws allowed the wheel to sit more centered.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:04 am 
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This could be just the way this frame is designed, but to me it looks like there is an awfully lot of space between the smallest cog and the DS dropout. Is your derailleur able to shift up and down the whole range of the cassette / does your old wheel have a similar gap at the dropout? Could be a (endcap) spacing issue?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:16 am 
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Do not need to quote the post above

It goes through all the gears, but when I installed the wheel I had to readjust and index the crap out of the RD, my previous wheel was not that far from the dropout, that's why I'm scratching my head over the end-caps on the hub.


I did measure the wheel dish with the advice that boolinwall posted, and sure enough with the tire at 100 PSI the dish is 5 mm off, so I don't know what the hell I will do to fix it. I might as well order the right parts for Shimano-SRAM 11 speed to sort of 'future-proof' the wheel and then see where I end up, then correct the dish as needed.

In the mean time it sucks that I can't try a 25 mm tire there.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:55 am 
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Make sure that it wasn't previously a campy wheel. The conversion might not have been done correctly in terms of where the internal spacers go. Anyone with HED wheels knows exactly what I mean.lol I agree, that's a massive amount of space between the dropout and the first cog. Don't try riding the wheel that far out of dish. You'll only do damage to your frame, wheel and tire.
Remove the right end cap and see if there's a spacer between it and the axle. If so, you might be able to swap that spacer to the non drive side. This needs to be done (plus an internal spacer switch) to switch HED hubs around.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:44 am 
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Anyone has access to a PDF file for this kind of hub? I already looked in the Reynolds website but I don't see anything 2012-2013 that has this hubset, I have zero experience messing around with hubs so I don't want to poke around without any instructions.

It's the same hubset as the 2012 Attack wheelset, I guess I should look around in Youtube as well......

Thanks for all the answers and help, I really really appreciate it.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 2:07 pm 
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Check the springs on the Skewer are the correct way around, sounds simple but if one is the wrong way around it will throw your wheel off centre.


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+1 on trying another set of skewers.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:29 pm 
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This is just like the Cannondale QC thread. Same problem.

As others suggested, try these easy things first. Different wheels, different skewers.

Then, you might just have a rear dropout alignment issue from the factory/carbon mold or the milling of the dropout/finishing stages.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 4:51 pm 
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I tried the original new skewer that came with the wheelset to no avail, same result.

The wheel is definitely 5 mm out of dish, the RD hanger is not loose or anything out of spec with the frame. I installed a different rear wheel and it sits just fine. I think something funny is going on with the end-caps of this hub like someone mentioned, this could have been a Campy wheel that they retrofitted for Shimano and installed the wrong parts.

If you look at the pics the cassette is way too far from the drop-out, doesn't look normal at all. I also measured the hub with a digital caliper and it does measure 130mm, so the wheel is not forcing anything in the dropouts.

I already sourced the right part numbers to get the Shimano 11 speed freewheel, the spacer and the right end-cap to run a 10 speed cassette. After I get those parts and install them I will not know, re-dishing the wheel is the last option I want to have to take.

I'll report back once I get those parts and install them. It sucks that Reynolds website is not up to date with their technical help info though.

Thanks for all the help guys.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 6:06 pm 
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bicicleta wrote:
So I recently got a hold of this 2013 Reynolds Solace wheelset, just so I could scratch my itch for trying tubeless. ... I'd hate to think that Reynolds would build a wheel that off-centered. ... I've emailed Reynolds twice like two weeks ago and haven't heard a thing from them, so maybe their customer service is as shity as their wheel build.
You never did tell us how you "got hold" of this wheelset. Perhaps that is information of some relevance to the discussion.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:34 pm 
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Bought it from a friend that owns a bike shop, from what I understand the wheelset came with a bicycle but the owner swapped some ZIPP 404 right away and left the Reynolds Solace to the shop, they were brand new. I haven't had a chance to go back to my friend and try to sort it out. I don't think he is a Reynolds distributor, the only thing I was expecting from Reynolds was to reply to my email asking for some info on this particular wheelset but they never did, I'm fully aware I will need to sort this out on my own and come out of pocket, I'm fine with that as well.

I still find it strange that the only retail places I can find this wheelset online has been the UK, so who knows when they will appear for sale in NA.

http://shop.upgradebikes.co.uk/Catalogu ... lds-Solace

I will try calling them directly and will try to buy the different end-caps for the hub and the right freewheel body for Shimano 11.


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