SRAM 11 Speed

[tinozee]

Still wondering about whether 11 speed mechanical will require completely new shifters. Or maybe 11sp is only for the hydraulic levered one? Not clear.

[euan]

Its been cleared up here already there are mechanical and hydraulic brake levers for 11sp shifting.

[jsinclair]

if the old road levers can be converted to 11-speed, could the new hydraulic levers be backwards converted to 10-speed?

[trychle]

Translation please?

http://www.freerider.ro/noutati/sram-face-pasul-spre-11-viteze-cu-red-si-force-22-si-lanseaza-frane-hidraulice-pentru-cursiere-51144.html


EDIT: google translate helped me out.

Red 22 BB30: 1749 gram (normal rim brakes)
Red 22 GXP: 1851 gram (normal rim brakes)
With hydraulic rim brakes 1958 gram
with hydraulic disc brakes 2020 gram

Force 22 BB30: 2150,5 gram
Force 22 GXP: 2267 gram
No hydraulic options.

[Pharmstrong]

http://www.bikerumor.com/2013/04/15/sra ... rst-rides/

http://www.bikerumor.com/2013/04/15/sra ... rst-rides/

A lot of information there.

[HammerTime2]

The cassette’s construction is very similar to before, just with new profiles and an additional cog. Both RED and Force 22 will have the following options:

11-25: 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,25
11-26: 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,26
11-28: 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,22,25,28
11-32: 11,12,13,14,15,17,19,22,25,28,32 (WiFLi)

Note that all three standard cassettes run one-tooth increments all the way to 17. This helps keep your cadence and/or effort from being erratic as you shift through the middle of the cassette.

22 speeds and you can't get an 18 cog.

[FIJIGabe]

The cassette’s construction is very similar to before, just with new profiles and an additional cog. Both RED and Force 22 will have the following options:

11-25: 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,25
11-26: 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,21,23,26
11-28: 11,12,13,14,15,16,17,19,22,25,28
11-32: 11,12,13,14,15,17,19,22,25,28,32 (WiFLi)

Note that all three standard cassettes run one-tooth increments all the way to 17. This helps keep your cadence and/or effort from being erratic as you shift through the middle of the cassette.

22 speeds and you can't get an 18 cog.

Iguess we'll be using DA9000 cassettes!

[Pharmstrong]

22 speeds and you can't get an 18 cog.

Yeah, it's an odd choice. Since going 11 speed (Athena w/ 12-25) I get a lot of use out of the 18.

[topflightpro]

All I have to say is Screw You Sram. You couldn't have just done one New Red, instead of doing a New New Red a year later?

[Briscoelab]

Sram's insistence on using 11T small cogs has always seemed really goofy to me. The 12-27 CX cassette for 10 speed was a step in the right direction at least. I bet most people would appreciate the 18T over an 11. One of the reasons I love Campy 11 speed 12-25 cassettes.

I'm guessing they are thinking a lot of people with $$ want to run their compact cranks and *think* they need an 11T with those You know... for those downhill, tail wind, sprints they aren't doing.

[prendrefeu]

I run compact and use the 11 often.

You know, for actual riding. Maybe we don't live in the same area or ride over the same terrain, Briscoelab.

[LouisN]

I run a compact, and use the 11T a lot: first I use it on the stand, to adjust the derailleurs.
Also I use it first time when the bike is fully cleaned. Just to make shure the smallest cog is a little lubed and dirty, so I can say I use it...
Serously, I use it in the mountains, but I don't go there often. It's still very useful.

Louis

[jmsp]

Latest info
http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... ils-37025/

[djconnel]

Sram's insistence on using 11T small cogs has always seemed really goofy to me. The 12-27 CX cassette for 10 speed was a step in the right direction at least. I bet most people would appreciate the 18T over an 11. One of the reasons I love Campy 11 speed 12-25 cassettes.

Agreed.

12-32 would be really nice in 11-speed: 12-13-14-15-16-17-19-21-23-25-28-32. Women tend to climb around 20% slower than men, on average, in a hillclimb series I organize. That means they can use 20% lower gears at the same cadence. I like the 11 for mixed terrain but run a 46-tooth big ring. My Recons start with 12, though, and I had 34-46 12-27 in a recent semi-race (117 miles) and had no problems on the long gradual run-in to the finish: I finished in the prizes. 11 is over-rated.

If you have it you use it on descents. But that doesn't mean you're much faster than if you didn't use it. Often just going into a tuck, spinning out the 12, and coasting is faster than trying to slog away in the 11 in a more upright posture.

[Imaking20]

FYI, the bikeradar article omits the weight of the BB in the mechanical group total weight.