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 Post subject: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 2:10 pm 
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Wilier just announced this today on their website/Facebook page without leaking it to the press I believe. Claimed 680g but I'm guessing an Italian scale was used For a commemorative bike, the graphics are pretty flat and uninspiring...

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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 10:52 pm 
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Anyone else think it was announced just to talk about "lightest" frame instead of "double powered" one ;) ?

Anyway, it's shame what happened to "W" for their 110y anniversary. Not involved in this cheat, will suffer ( brand image ) most :(

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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:03 pm 
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I hope they made it more like the '14 model ride quality.

Kinda sucks but what moron would really hold Wilier liable for the motor cheat? I know the local rep here and gave him a ribbing but only in jest.

On another note a local LBS here confirmed installing one on a 'not Wilier' bike for a man no longer on his top game due to injury/accident.

We are going to see a lot of these in the future, unfortunately.


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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:09 pm 
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http://www.wilier.com/en/products/int/road/zero6

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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2016 11:21 pm 
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World is full of morons, so they will from 1 reason only : they can :mrgreen:

You have to sacrifice something ( no free lunch ) weight for ride quality, or ride quality for weight ;) . 2014 frameset were about 1200g for aero/GTR and 1000g for "zero"/ Cento1 ...

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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 1:43 am 
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^ Yes, I was referring to the '14 Zero7. They are supposed to be 700 gramsish.


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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:15 am 
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Interesting that they're not even offering it in their two largest geometries (XL and XXL). Wonder if they figure it's just simply too light on an absolute level for the bigger boys to ride. Or maybe it was just impossible to build in those sizes and still call it a "Zero6", since they would inherently come in at over 700g as opposed to in the 600's like the Zero6's are claimed to be. Looks like they've straightened out the lines a bit styling wise, which I kind like.

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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:40 am 
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Hmmm, not only did they lift the r5's shape, the lifted the colors too :)


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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
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The color is copper and not red. I agree on the R5 influence though.
Wilier was among the first italian companies to produce an -actual- ultralight frame and they deserve credit for that.

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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 11:05 am 
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glepore wrote:
Hmmm, not only did they lift the r5's shape, the lifted the colors too :)


Not even. It has a square downtube kinda like the first R5, but that's about it, and Cervelo has never used that copper colour.

I hope this new one is a return to form - I loved my original Zero.7, the new ones seemed like a step back in every department like real world weight, handling and ride just so they could claim some pontless aero tweaks.


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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 5:05 am 
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That's a good looking bike.

For those that are pointing out it looks like R5... yeah all STW bikes are going to look like one another. And if we must point to an origin, you have to cite the 2006 R3. Squarish tubes, tall beefy chainstays and super thin seatstays. Sure todays frames are a little curvier (for aero or aesthetic reasons). R3 can be considered the grandfather of the modern STW carbon frame.

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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:44 am 
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No choice for XL size?

Probably they would have not been able to manufacture an XL frame within the weight range without sacrificing stiffness.


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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 9:23 am 
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Obviously. Anyway Cento Uno SR is a much better frame for heavier riders.

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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 10:33 am 
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I have Cento Uno Cross Carbon - indeed fabulous bike. being 182/88 do not worry about it at all ( frame 1200g in size L, fork 490g )

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 Post subject: Re: Wilier Zero6
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:14 am 
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Calnago wrote:
Interesting that they're not even offering it in their two largest geometries (XL and XXL). Wonder if they figure it's just simply too light on an absolute level for the bigger boys to ride. Or maybe it was just impossible to build in those sizes and still call it a "Zero6", since they would inherently come in at over 700g as opposed to in the 600's like the Zero6's are claimed to be. Looks like they've straightened out the lines a bit styling wise, which I kind like.


It's a limited edition production run of 200 frames total. Probably the distribution of frame sizes they typically sell for the 0.7 indicated that making XL and XXL wasn't cost effective :node:

Interestingly, they're claiming a new carbon for this frame, and no mention of SEI. I've long wondered if the tradeoffs in getting SEI to work were not as good once they shrank the tube sizes down for the 2nd gen bike.

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