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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:55 pm 
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I have a set of LW Stds that must be Gen 1. They are built around the DT 240s hub internals. Does anyone see any reason why I wouldn't be able to convert them to take Shimano 11sp by changing the rotor and end cap to the new 240s 11sp compatible versions?

I am thinking it should be fine, but since these wheels are not the most recent generations, I am just wondering if I am missing anything.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:13 pm 
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The wheel will be out of dish, technically. Personally, I did this on one and could not see an appreciable difference. IMO the dish change is less than dish variance between two different wheels.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:28 pm 
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LW Gen Is didn't have DT swiss internals as far as I know - I thought they had Dura Ace hub internals for Shimano ones. I think your wheels may be Gen II?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:47 pm 
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Let me clarify. The LWs I am referring to were the first generation produced after the company was purchased by Carbonsport. They have DT internals. I also have a set of the pre-Carbonsport LWs from the Dierl & Obermeyer days, and they do have Shimano 7700 internals in the rear hub.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:03 pm 
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In Lightweight Mellenstein, Andreas Schiwy, a.k.a. CarbonSportsGmbH wrote:
All Lightweight rear wheels will be compatible to Shimano 11s. The new production has modified hubs, and there will be new DT freehub bodies (marked as 11s). Four different combinatins wiil be possible:
  • 10s wheel + 10s freehub body => 130mm wide, the well known setting up to now
  • 10s wheel + 11s freehub body => 131mm, wheel is 0,5mm off center to the left, when using 21t or 23t cassettes derailler may contact spokes (only with sprint rear wheel)
  • 11s wheel + 10s freehub body => 131mm, wheel is 0,5mm off center to the right
  • 11s wheel + 11s freehub body => 131mm (spacer needed to use 10s cassettes here, spacer is part of purchased parts package)

In Lightweight Mellenstein, Andreas Schiwy, a.k.a. CarbonSportsGmbH wrote:
HammerTime2 wrote:
So is there no spoke contact problem for all 10 speed Lightweight wheels other than sprint? What about Ventoux Gen. II or Gen. III with DT 240 or DT 190 plus new (11s) freehub? What are the consequences of being 0,5 mm off center?


- Ventoux could be critical as well, as they are 24spoked. The "contact area" are the knots where the spokes are bended together...
- 0,5mm off center does not really matter... many wheels come off center and you would never realise during riding. Lots of frames might be off center as well..


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:12 pm 
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thanks Hammertime,

Just to be sure, what do they define as a "sprint" rear wheel?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:18 pm 
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Sprint rear wheel has 24 spokes (it was designed for a sprinter, to be even stiffer than the Standard). If you have 20 spokes rear, you are fine.

Note that Ventoux, now Gipfelsturm, also has 24 spokes rear, but given that you have a Standard, you obviously do not have that.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:26 pm 
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Gotcha. My rear LW has 20 spokes.

Thanks.


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