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Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:15 pm
by audiophilitis
Kjetil wrote:Colnago puts it under the down tube right in front of the BB on the C59. Trek has a messy world record on the new Madone.

I have read that Campagnolo has a seat post mounting standard coming. I just wonder where the charge and diagnostics ports will go. Maybe they'll put it all inside a Campagnolo post. That could be elegant.


That's great news about the seatpost mount -- assuming internal. Was there a target launch date?

Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:33 pm
by Kjetil
I think it was Italian Cycling Journal that put up a drawing and some words about it. That's all I know.

Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:33 pm
by Weenie

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Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:46 pm
by rmerka
Maybe that's where they are hiding it in the BMC Lamborghini bike?
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Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:43 pm
by ultimobici
rmerka wrote:Maybe that's where they are hiding it in the BMC Lamborghini bike?
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Doubt it, as Impec has external mount for the Di2 version as can be seen here
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Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:39 pm
by rmerka
Hmmm... but the yellow one clearly has SR EPS yet no visible "brain-battery box" :? Which is on the BB of their "normal" impec.
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Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:11 pm
by ultimobici
If you look at the second pic you can see the battery mounted on the bottom of the BB shell.

There is unlikely to be a special battery sorted out for a small company like BMC, when the likes of Pinarello, who have been in the process from day one, are still using the regular external battery. Even Colnago & De Rosa have to make do with the regular battery. Why would BMC's collabaration with VW sway them?

Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:23 pm
by rmerka
Apparently De Rosa doesn't have to put up with it:

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From derosanews.com:
888 Superking

The top of the range of De Rosa is enriched by a new set of frames: the 888 SuperKing. The Series 888 is formed by superking models "R", "SR" and "E". In particular, the models "E" has been designed with the aim of integrating the battery to the chassis Eps, battery that moves with electronic products by Campagnolo. The ‘SuperKing 888 "E" is the result of collaboration between our designers and engineers from Campagnolo. This union has made that was born the first frame in the world devoted to Campagnolo Eps battery completely hidden inside the frame, and rechargeable via a "plug" into the frame itself. Models "R" and "SR" are dedicated to all those who choose mechanical assemblies. The series 888 superking is characterized by a "blend" of 3 different types of composite fibers MR-60 (295 GPA/5800MPA), HR-40 (390GPA/4610MPA) and NGF's 630GPA. Addition of structural reinforcements were added at the points of greatest stress using a "complex" of high modulus fibers. The structure of the frame is certainly refined and advanced, intended to provide a low overall weight, high rigidity, but with a better absorption to vibration. The 888 series is the world's first SuperKing characterized by this component of the vibration damping, unique and harmonious distributed uniformly on the structure of the rear seat tube and fork. Proposal with regular geometry, and in 8 sizes.

Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:32 pm
by ultimobici
The battery is fitted inside, true. But it is only by virtue of a design from scratch. BMC's Impec is an existing design that is unlikely to be adaptable to allow this. If it was why are they not making a point about it? Surely it would be a selling point to jusyify the €20000 price tag. Otherwise it's a big ask for some paint & hide!

Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:50 pm
by Epic-o
ultimobici wrote:The battery is fitted inside, true. But it is only by virtue of a design from scratch. BMC's Impec is an existing design that is unlikely to be adaptable to allow this. If it was why are they not making a point about it? Surely it would be a selling point to jusyify the €20000 price tag. Otherwise it's a big ask for some paint & hide!


The obvious explanation is that they removed it for the photo

Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:54 pm
by ultimobici
Epic-o wrote:
ultimobici wrote:The battery is fitted inside, true. But it is only by virtue of a design from scratch. BMC's Impec is an existing design that is unlikely to be adaptable to allow this. If it was why are they not making a point about it? Surely it would be a selling point to jusyify the €20000 price tag. Otherwise it's a big ask for some paint & hide!


The obvious explanation is that they removed it for the photo

Exactly.

Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:02 pm
by rmerka
On a whim I emailed BMC, not expecting to get a response and got this :shock: ,so not exactly:

Dear Mr. ,

we use the a totally new power unit of Campagnolo. We’re not allowed to tell more details. Campagnolo will officially inform by the end of March/beginning of April on this new unit.

Best regards,

Marketing Coordinator

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Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:32 pm
by audiophilitis
rmerka wrote:On a whim I emailed BMC, not expecting to get a response and got this :shock: ,so not exactly:

Dear Mr. ,

we use the a totally new power unit of Campagnolo. We’re not allowed to tell more details. Campagnolo will officially inform by the end of March/beginning of April on this new unit.

Best regards,

Marketing Coordinator

Email:
Direct: +41
Mobile: +41
Skype:
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BMC SWITZERLAND AG
Sportstrasse 49 | CH-2540 Grenchen | Phone +41 32 654 14 54 | Fax +41 32 654 14 55
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engineered for excitement
http://www.bmc-switzerland.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; | http://www.bmcracingteam.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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That's promising!

Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:50 pm
by rhyslewisdavies
i emailed campag in january asking this question - its in another thread where i started the same question and was told that this was their highest priority at the moment

Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:36 pm
by HammerTime2
rhyslewisdavies is apparently referring to this:

In Next Gen Campagnolo Record EPS on January 8(7), rhyslewisdavies wrote:At least they are looking to sort it so its just a waiting game now - sent them an email asking when a hidden battery would be released and got this reply:

Dear Mr. Rhys,

of the record, we are working on about this solution, with the power unit placed inside the down tube or inside the seat post. At the moment, I’m not able to give a date of released of this new product but hopefully as soon as possible.

Cordiali Saluti/ Best Regards

Federico Fiori

Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2013 7:36 pm
by Weenie

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Re: Is it possible to put the EPS battery in a seatpost?

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:05 pm
by williamsf1
would love to see if anyone has done it before campag do it....