IP theft is still theft.
Copying a whole bike is lame. The so-called difference is not because they are trying to keep it different, but because it's a bad copy job. If they can get original drawings of the Venge, they would not be shy to use it.
...sigh...this sort of idiotic crap is what gets me annoyed with the open mold debate.
The FM098 alone has the internal cable routing flipped...you think that something so obvoius is unintentional and that after their 3rd revision of the frame they still haven't figured this one out yet?
The same thing goes for nearly all of Dengfu's frames...they use internal cable routing even when the "copy" does not. You think they do that on accident?
...I'd suggest you only comment on things you have a good grasp of it and stop posting this filth.
There are many carbon factories in China. Some are good. Many of them suck. Any generalization beyond that simply is dillusional.
Open models can be good, or can be crap.
Same with name brands...nothing new here
Big brands can lose business if they are knocked off heavily, because customers would be pissed if they spend $5K and be mistaken for riding a fake. Some knock-off buyers can also afford higher end stuff (see earlier Di2 FM015).
Yes...because Rolex and Oakley are so hard up for business because of all the crappy street vendor knock-offs right? Feel free to post back a bike that has suffered because of knock-offs if you can come up with one. It's certainly not even close to being at the level of counter fitting that Oakley has fended off without much trouble.
This mob-mentality is dangerous.
*** - I edited this retort out...I was getting a on a role and it turned a bit hostile by this point and as a fairly new WW member (although a lurker for a few years) I should probably keep a decent reputation around here.