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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:55 pm 
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Anybody have experience of this stuff? Tips for using, quantity etc? Tubs or clincher use?

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:12 pm 
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Hi,

I've been using Revo in my Gatorskin Sprinter 25mm tubulars for the past week. I puncture flatted the front on a piece of glass, verified the tubular tire quantity with Conti, then injected 60ml through the valve with the core removed. After some swishing/spinning and a few minutes to let the hardened plug solidify, the tire was able to hold pressure up to the rated max. Today, I rode 120km on the repaired tire with no issues.

Moreover, since one tire already had been compromised, I took the opportunity to install Revo in the rear as well. Now, I just carry my one spare pre-glued tube rather than a Caffelatex supply and valve core tool. Any damage that can overwhelm the sealant probably means a shredded tire, and a tubular change is in order.

Conti says a single application should last 6 months in this type of thick butyl tube, 3-4 in a thinner latex tubed tire. Significantly, they said the latex in the sealant (it has *does* contain latex/synthetic latex, but not ammonia) won't conjoin the opposing walls of your latex tube if the tire deflates over time and the tube walls collapse onto each other. That's kinda important. Also important: you can mix this in the same tube as Caffelatex but not with Stans. Apparently, this combo will create an instant solid object inside your tire.

To date, I have not experienced a rolling puncture while the Revo is in the tires, so its actual performance relative to something like Stans - which sometimes seals your puncture before you can stop the bike - is unknown. Still, I feel better with the Revo knowing it's not slowly eating its way through my inner tube.

The Revo bottle comes with 240ml, features a transparent vertical slit with a scale graduated in milliliters, and uses a spout that tapers specifically to a size suitable for a presta stem with the core removed. It's very user friendly in the shop, but it would be nice to have a smaller bottle for field installation (since not every rider will want to install sealant in top-end tubulars unless faced with a flat and no alternative). Before my puncture, I had been using one of the empty Stans 2oz bottles cleaned and refilled with Revo as a contingency option. As it happened, my puncture occurred close enough to home that I just rode to my door and installed straight from the Revo 240ml bottle.

For what it's worth, I know of a few guys who are running Revo in lieu of Stans for tubeless MTB applications, and they have had great success with it.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 10:16 pm 
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Thats excellent information, thank you :D

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:23 am 
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Hi,

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then injected 60ml through the valve with the core removed.


That's still an awful lot of liquid latex considering you could fix most small punctures with about a third of that.
All this stuff is not going to magically disappear and will amass at the point where the wheel/tyre imbalance is greatest though.

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Significantly, they said the latex in the sealant (it has *does* contain latex/synthetic latex, but not ammonia) won't conjoin the opposing walls of your latex tube if the tire deflates over time and the tube walls collapse onto each other. That's kinda important.


Vey important indeed as I've lost at least a few tubs because of that as will have numerous others. So this new synthetic latex formula knows what to stick to and what not?

Either way, good to see they at least recognized the problem. One some of us have been warning against for at least half a decade...
I still have one Veloflex Carbon in the cellar with a replaced inner tube because of that and another where I still need to figure out a way to separate the inner tube from the casing somehow.
Yep, liquid latex is a damn good glue..... And a sure way to ruin the best tubular when used pre-emptively....

Ciao, ;)

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