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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:57 pm 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... HzLwucaLsc
As stated. Three new Photons coming from Guru. I'll personally only ride Guru bikes, so I'm a tad biased. But I think they're pretty hot.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2013 9:58 pm 
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Hopefully Josh and the boys don't mind me posting this on here. It's on their facebook page if you want a better look and more details.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:42 am 
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I just can't get past my hate for the series of videos where they're sitting around eating food and talking bikes. Just the absolute worst marketing I've ever seen. I'd be hard pressed to support ny company that makes poo like this:
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=rela ... 2SWQmkkv6o


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:03 am 
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I can see how a bad video could effect the way a bike rides. Your reasoning is logical.lol (I'm kidding of course)


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 2:20 am 
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I guess my reasoning is, there is no shortage of good bikes out there. Why support a company that comes off as a bunch of tools?

Not to mention, it seemed that most Photon frames were way heavier than claimed:
http://www.cyclingtechblog.com/2010/04/ ... s-reality/

There is enough B.S. in the bike industry, not supporting companies that are the biggest proponents of it is one way to reduce it. Just as I was writing this I remember when Guru was getting flack for their bikes being unaerodynamic and the first thing they didn't do was own up to it. They instead took their bike and a P3 to the wind tunnel and made up some story about how the rider on the P3 was too uncomfortable and therefore moved around and that with that movement their bike was faster. F me its ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:01 am 
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I do see your point and respect it. In all likelihood, their 901 isn't likely as aero as a P3. However, the fact that you can get it in custom geometry would offset that difference for a lot of people. Ask Cervelo to do custom geo on a bike.
Like anything, it's all in what you value most. And no two people are going to see the exact same value in different things.
You're also right in saying that there are a lot of good options out there. It's hard to imagine going wrong with any really good brand.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:00 am 
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The guru's rep told that the new photon is there cause cannondale bought their guru fitting technology.... so $$$$$$$ ;-)

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:52 am 
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I can't imagine that the R&D on these bikes came cheap. That having been said, these bikes have been 2 years in development. Long before the Cannondale deal was in place. Although I'm sure the extra cash flow didn't hurt in bringing it to final production.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:46 pm 
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Cool! They ditched the ISP, it seems, which is a welcome change. I wonder if they increased the epoxy content: Crumpton said here he thought the photon would be too brittle, and indeed, we started reading about them breaking here.

No mass number in the video: just "incredibly light".

I admit when I saw the old Photon I was very tempted: custom geometry at around $4.5k, the price of some stock frames. And it looked really, really good. But I think it's fair to say it fell short of expectations.

BTW, I should add that when I saw the light Crumpton @ NAHBS I was very impressed. Versus Photon 1.0 that was clearly the better choice.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:40 pm 
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NGMN wrote:
Not to mention, it seemed that most Photon frames were way heavier than claimed


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:57 pm 
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801g is not bad but not if it's a 52 and Guru said it would be 650g.

The video is content free marketing bulldada.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:00 pm 
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mrglibb, do you also happen to have a Trek? If so, that would be an incredible coincidence - you and this guy artray (perhaps you've heard of him?) both having Gurus and Treks. Have you ever dabbled with Ultremos?


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:26 am 
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http://www.gurucycles.com/photon-series

they claim 670gm for the ultralight in 54cm frame. price is outrageous...8500 :unbelievable:

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