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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:54 pm 
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I know this is weight weenies but structural components need to be safe to ride. If the frame breaks when treveling at 20 mph in traffic it could be game over. That would be a shame for a few grams.

Driling a track frame is one thing you are on a track and the possibility of death is much less, the chances are a frame failure would lead to a number of painful bruses but that's it. . On a commutor it is a lot higher. Why increase your risk?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:56 pm 
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If you can drill rims and ride them, then you can surely drill a frame!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:15 am 
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bm0p700f wrote:
I know this is weight weenies but structural components need to be safe to ride. If the frame breaks when treveling at 20 mph in traffic it could be game over. That would be a shame for a few grams.

Driling a track frame is one thing you are on a track and the possibility of death is much less, the chances are a frame failure would lead to a number of painful bruses but that's it. . On a commutor it is a lot higher. Why increase your risk?


Actually, worst crashes I ever saw were on the track. You're going half again or twice the speed you're going on the road and getting hit by half a dozen riders right behind you or getting tangled up with a motorpace motorcycle is just as problematic. Sure there's a theoretical possibility your frame might break catastrophically and throw you under a car, but puhlease, virtually all frame breakages are gradual. The only torn or snapped frames I've seen, except an occasional fork (a la Hincapie) have occurred as the aftermath of a big crash.

Anyway, why are we debating this? The original poster is either nuts or a troll or just has a sense of humor. I assumed the latter and was enjoying most of this thread. Let's not get serious about it, though. Because anyway, all of us ride bikes with large holes already running right through the tubes. So there.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:17 am 
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Actually, I was thinking that I might eventually drill my steel frame. There are a few good spots that would be ideal for it, mainly on the seat stay and chain stay bridges (I might drill these and tap them for my mudguards anyway), near the seat collar, a few small holes in the rear disc mount, and some holes in each of the 5 cable guides for the rear disc cable. I'm sure I can save 10-15grams from all this without compromising safety whatsoever.


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:07 pm 
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oysters wrote:
Actually, I was thinking that I might eventually drill my steel frame. There are a few good spots that would be ideal for it, mainly on the seat stay and chain stay bridges (I might drill these and tap them for my mudguards anyway), near the seat collar, a few small holes in the rear disc mount, and some holes in each of the 5 cable guides for the rear disc cable. I'm sure I can save 10-15grams from all this without compromising safety whatsoever.


Did anyone question the satire underway here? No longer. This is the very best of weight weenies -- drilling holes to save weight so as to accommodate mudguards. Nice.


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Too many drilled holes = stress risers...?

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