here she is with demo zipp 303s

the is the glossy black. you can see the carbon fiber detail under the paint. I did not get a weight for the frame - when I first saw it it already had SR EPS installed and after a couple of test rides I decided to leave that on instead of having Sram Red put on. An R5 VWD with SR EPS is supposed to be 11k when it comes out so it was a no brainer for me....
looks like the file is too big

First post so Hi to all, be gentle, I was searching for build weights for the fake 65.1 and found this to be font of info.
Not sure if Im allowed on the site for buying one so flame away.
Bought from mainland China, Aliexpress, Its the 1K finish, not the 3K, pretty sure its just a cosmetic layer. Finish needed a bit of cajoling to get bearings onto forks, I took it unpainted but they still sprayed the joints and exits, not a lot of care taken there some issues with paint over cable runs, all sorted in a couple of hours.
Frame 1185g
Forks 433g uncut
Most bars 110-440 388g
seat post 192g
Built up with DA9000
Selle gel flite
Pair of HED ardennes on at the moment clinchers with Conti 4000's
Two bottle cages
pedals 9000
Total 7200g
Comments appreciated ...........

I put together a fake 65.1 (It was in Pinarello colors, BOB, so I think thats less and thus lighter) for someone. Not sure of the size but it was small with an effective top tube of about 51cm. Weight for the frame and hardware was 1058, Seatpost was a porky 230g (slightly cut) and the fork was around 430g uncut.

Spun it around the block a few times.. rides well, exterior finish is nice... inside the frame is rough though.. wasn't impressed. Its the third one of these I have had my hands on in the last couple of years, the other two I see around and still seem to be going strong, so who knows, maybe they are alright ? Definitely not the same as the original's though which are much less rough inside from what I saw.

Dogma 65.1 is heavy weighted as compared with pro bikes. A frame weight greatly effects the performance of a rider during riding bikes/ cycles. Light weighted frame helps a rider to show at best level.

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I agree

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Wilier Cento Uno
Colnago Master X-light
Wilier 18carati

+1 LOL.

I remember all that crap. Careful you don't accidentally breathe on your cf top tube now!

There were people saying Lance is innocent also.

Perhaps the same chaps!

They've all melted away to even more deviant corners of the internet

That picture of Richie Porte is funny. Looks like he is just learning to ride with no hands

I'm pretty sure that these guys are all riding custom layups. I was speaking to one of the ex Radioshack riders and he seemed pretty sure that all of their frames were different to the off the shelf stuff

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Apparently my bikes were talking the other day & are undecided whether to upgrade the current rider or get a new one...

one of the schemers...

I don't see many people with a clue about cycling buying Dogmas these days.

Oh, wait a minute. That's not Dogmas, that's Mavics, and that's not me saying that, that's sawyer saying that.
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=113&t=113639&start=15#p970284