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Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:04 pm
by lone wheeler
Hi, Just received my Canyon Ultimate AL and need advice on the press fit BB.

I'm about to order a Campagnolo Super Record group set and know I also have to order the Campagnolo press fit cups due to the type of BB on the frame, thats all fine, however when ordering the group set, do I order the English thread or Italian tread BB or does it not matter? Sorry for sounding a little clueless, It's a press fit first for me!

Hopefully somebody can advise...

Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:04 pm
by Weenie

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Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:19 pm
by SDP
not threaded..its pressfit..assume bb86? ..you just need campag bearings to suit.

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Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:13 pm
by lone wheeler
Thank you, Canyon said its the 86,5 so that's ok. Am i to assume the BB cups that come with the groupset will be surplus to requirements then? And i just need to order the Campagnolo press fit cups in size 86,5?

Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:43 pm
by BobSantini
Campy has press in adapters for both BB30 and PF30 (press fit). The only difference is the diameter. BB30 is 42 and PF30 is 46. And yes you don't need the outboard cups.
Those adapters have a reputation for creaking so be sure to have them installed properly.

Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:20 pm
by SDP
check with canyon...i think canyon use bb86...
if so ignore the bb30 comments..

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Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:31 pm
by lone wheeler
Thanks for the info, any tips on eliminating the chance of creaking? Prevention is better than cure as they say...

Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:39 pm
by Kasparz
Loctite. Search for more info, there was a good thred about Campag pressfit cups and Loctite solutions.

Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:44 pm
by lone wheeler
I'll do a search, thanks again.

When did it all become so confusing! Bring back square taper!! :wink:

Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 7:48 pm
by Permon
lone wheeler wrote:I'll do a search, thanks again.

When did it all become so confusing! Bring back square taper!! :wink:


Hi, if Canyon is BB86 (I quess it is), order these ones:
http://www.excelsports.com/main.asp?pag ... =1&minor=6

The topic about fixing cups is here:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=93006&hilit=campagnolo+pf30
You should be using Loctite 609 + primer 7649 (it is kind of expensive....approx 70 EUR)

Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 8:10 pm
by SDP
they are the boys you need
..get them fitted by someone experienced if you are unsure...

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Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:07 pm
by lone wheeler
Would I be better getting a Rotor chainset and BB to reduce risk of creaking on the Canyon or would the likelyhood of creaking be the same? I just dont want the issues that some seem to of had.

Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:59 am
by elviento
campy makes an adaptor. just look for "41" on the box as its 41mm diameter. in fact i might have a spare one.

Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:13 am
by micropox
get the campagnolo ultra-torque os-fit 86.5x41 integrated bb cups. then apply loctite 641 on the bb and the cups to prevent creaking.

Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 5:13 am
by Weenie

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Re: Help with Canyon Ultimate AL

Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2013 7:43 am
by lone wheeler
Thanks guys, ^^ this is what i'll be doing and fingers crossed it doesn't creak.

I'll be gutted if it does, the frame and forks look fantastic.