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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 1:06 am 
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Heres my solution to the power cordz compatability w/ Aican brake housing. I shimmed a 1.5mm shifter cord with a alligator mini link at the shift/ brake lever and tied off the pwr.cordz at the original Ax Orion 3000 brake binder. Works great not to spongy w/lighter gauge cables & no cable slippage after more than 200mi. The best of both worlds and WW also.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 2:33 am 
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Cool, but you could have put this in the AICAN thread http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=105642


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:05 am 
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Nice job. What is poking out of your levers - the red thingy?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:37 am 
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That's the end of the CORDz. A potential solution requiring a less visually odd look would be to mill a donut of alu that scales the end of the shifter cord up to the size of a brake one and mount it inside, normally. Did you do any research on the difference in strength between the 2 types of cordz?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:06 am 
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You say 1.5 shifter cord. Should that be 1.2. P'cordz site says 1.2 for shifters.

Just checked. P'cordz offered on their site are 1.7 for brakes and 1.2 for shifters so shifter cable has literally 1/2 the strength and twice the stretch of brake cable.
I don't know if that's significant but it should be of concern.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:38 am 
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The red cable nipple & alligator mini link are only exsposed before setup to show the process. They are concealed inside lever after installation no need to mill cable nipple. The 1.5mm pwr cordz are no longer made. Fairwheels has a few nos on closeout. I'm not really shure of exact strength differance between 1.7mm & 1.5mm. I'll leave that for the engineer type's to debate but as stated before lever feel is not spongy at all and brakeing is actually quite good. PP


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:16 pm 
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about 78% :)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 3:05 pm 
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Can we have close up pictures?
Have you had a chance to put the Aican/PC on the scale?

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:09 pm 
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-Frt cord & housing 8grams saved 2.3g
- Rear cord &housing 14.5g saved 5.1g
-total cordz & housing 22.5g
- rear cable only trimmed to length 3.1g w/mini i link shim saved .4g
-frt cable 1.7g (no savings w/ shim)
- 54cm tt 11cm stem 40 cm bars c-c .
Total weight savings are over std. Alligator I links & std pwr cordz for brakes 7.8g total.
Sorry no more photos for now.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:48 pm 
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I'm not an extreme weight wennie but I do what i can and can afford to drop weight. what did you do for your hoods??


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:02 pm 
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Is that a photon ? if it is , how do the AX forks ride ?
I have a Photon with Enve 1's
Like to see a photo .


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:45 pm 
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Thanks for that.
My dlr alu housing plus PC ended up with 32g, but with much bigger frame. That's why I was curious about the weight. Does the weight refer to the full set, with all necessary cable stoppers etc?

I have mini I link on my mtb, which I used to use with PC as well. Can you make tight bends with the Aican as with the mini I link? Probably that would be my only reason to go with Aican, better look.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:57 am 
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I'll try and respond to a few questions you WW's have.
1)Brk.hoods are BTP carbon aprox.20g saved.
2)Yes it is a Guru Photon/ AX 6000 fork rides great and is plenty stiff trimmed w/ 25 mm spacer 226g.
3) Housing includes all stops,although not all oem if I had something lighter.
4) I'm using mini I links for derl. as they are still lightest and are able to have much greater bend radius.
I hope to have complete bike specs and photos after my latest upgraded ax stem is received and installed.
Current weight 3924 g/8.6 lbs W/ tuned Red shifers,r. derl.
Stay Tuned (pun intended) PP


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:51 am 
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Wowza!!!!.....you got a GURU under 4kg???
:unbelievable:
Top effort!!!

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sweet jeebus!!!! 8.6lbs!!!???? :shock:


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