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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:12 pm 
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So I am looking to purchase a set of AX P38t's, and they can come with either Tune mig45/mag150 or Extralite UltraFront SPM/Ultra Rear SPX. The weight is 30g in favor of the Extralites, but is there anything else I should know? What would you get?


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:25 pm 
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I'd get extralite, but I'd see if you could get the newer "CYPER" hubs.. I've had a cyperrear on my Enve3.4 for a few months now.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:35 pm 
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The new cyberhubs are awesome! Beefed up spoke flanges, replacement of the bushing system with another bearing, spanner flats on the pre load adjusters and they've managed to trim 5grams off an already crazy light and impressive hub.

Verse the tunes the biggest thing is drive side tension limits
Tunes are rated to 100kgF +/-10%
Cyber rear is rated to 130kgF +/-10%

The biggest side affect of these tension rates is that on a tune build you are really going to struggle to get the NDS tension up to a point where the spokes are contributing to the lateral stiffness of the wheel as apposed to been along for the ride!

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:18 pm 
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I'm not sure what the Extralites are like but the Tune freehub is very loud on my Mag170. It's definitely something I'm keeping in mind on my next wheel build.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:51 pm 
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If I'm remembering right, Extralites are pretty loud as well. I've seen them built to higher tension, but Tune does tell you to max out spoke tension at 1100N (~112KGF), which is really low.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:43 pm 
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I have the cyber... As I said.. I don't find it anywhere near as loud as the tune I tried (mag 170) it's quite then my powertap G3 too.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 2:03 am 
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I'm not sure if I can get the new Cyber hubs as they are built with either the Tunes or Ultras, the Starbike page says that the at Ultras are tensioned to 1000N front and 1300N rear drive side and the Tunes are tensioned to 1300N.

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Most Likey they are using flanged cyberhubs not the cyberhub straight pulls
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Handle a lot more tension than the flanged models

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:50 am 
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Would the Tune Hubs be more reliable than the Extralites?

I have been considering getting some Hyperclinch wheels, I really like the straight pull, wide flanges of the Extralite hubs, but am worried about long term durability of the hubs.

The alternatives for me would be the mig70/mag170 or just some Dati's or similar cheaper hubs


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I bought the Extralites about a year ago. They are ridden by a 65kg rider and have had no issue with them. Very nice. Just bought an Extralite stem too.


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