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PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:08 pm 
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Hi,

I have the option of getting a pair of schwarzbrenner 38 tubulars for a good price and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with those.
I'm concerned with braking and with the weight limit. I weigh 75 killos which is ok, but the limit itself doesn't sound reassuring..
The wheels are light (lighter than I need) and that worries me, I like things to be bombproof.
I'm also considering vision metron 40 (they look very robust) and dura ace c50 (for the brake track and the hubs) , both clinchers.

What do you think?

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 3:31 pm 
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I've decided to go with the Schwarzbrenners. I'll come back with a review when I get them on the bike.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:21 pm 
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Very good rims (Xentis) and cool, light hubs. Maybe not the most durable or stiffest... I would go for it.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 8:12 pm 
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As far as I know, tune hasn't used xentis rims for these wheels... Correct me if I'm wrong.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2016 10:15 am 
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They used Xentis rims but maybe their new, wider rims, are something different.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:30 pm 
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iliedanila wrote:
As far as I know, tune hasn't used xentis rims for these wheels... Correct me if I'm wrong.

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No, it's not Xentis rims. These rims are made in Asia.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:31 pm 
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iliedanila wrote:
Hi,

I have the option of getting a pair of schwarzbrenner 38 tubulars for a good price and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with those.
I'm concerned with braking and with the weight limit. I weigh 75 killos which is ok, but the limit itself doesn't sound reassuring..
The wheels are light (lighter than I need) and that worries me, I like things to be bombproof.
I'm also considering vision metron 40 (they look very robust) and dura ace c50 (for the brake track and the hubs) , both clinchers.

What do you think?

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It shouldn't be a problem. The rims are not super thin.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2016 4:42 pm 
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wheelsONfire wrote:
iliedanila wrote:
Hi,

I have the option of getting a pair of schwarzbrenner 38 tubulars for a good price and I'm wondering if anyone has experience with those.
I'm concerned with braking and with the weight limit. I weigh 75 killos which is ok, but the limit itself doesn't sound reassuring..
The wheels are light (lighter than I need) and that worries me, I like things to be bombproof.
I'm also considering vision metron 40 (they look very robust) and dura ace c50 (for the brake track and the hubs) , both clinchers.

What do you think?

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It shouldn't be a problem. The rims are not super thin.

Honestly, based on the max rider weight, I fear there might be low tension in the spokes, which would make this Wheelset a bad investment for me.
Now, since I already ordered them, it's too late, let's hope they're ok..

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 1:59 pm 
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1100Nm.... too low?
¹ The max. rider weight refers to the system weight, which includes the rider, bike, clothes and luggage
That is 100Kgs.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:00 pm 
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1100 Nm? You sure?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:30 pm 
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Schwarzbrenner 38C Schwarzbrenner 38T Schwarzbrenner 60C Schwarzbrenner 60T
max. Fahrergewicht1 100 kg 100 kg 100 kg 100 kg
Cyclocross Zugelassen Ja Ja Ja Ja
Disc Zugelassen Ja Ja Ja Ja
Reifenbreiten2 min. 23 mm /
max.32 mm
keine
Beschränkung
min. 23 mm /
max.32 mm
keine
Beschränkung
Schlauchreifen/ Clincher Clincher Schlauchreifen Clncher Schlauchreifen
Max. Speichenspannung3 1100N 1100N 1100 N 1100 N
Luftdruck 23 mm: 9,0 bar/ 131 psi
24 mm: 8,1 bar/ 117 psi
25 mm: 7,4 bar/ 107 psi
28 mm: 6,0 bar/ 87 psi
32 mm: 4,0 bar/ 58 psi
keine
Beschränkung
23 mm: 9,0 bar/ 131 psi
24 mm: 8,1 bar/ 117 psi
25 mm: 7,4 bar/ 107 psi
28 mm: 6,0 bar/ 87 psi
32 mm: 4,0 bar/ 58 psi
keine
Beschränkung
ERD4 569 mm 569 mm 525 mm 525 mm
Dimensionen Innenbreite:18 mm
Außenbreite: 28 mm
Höhe:38 mm
Außenbreite: 28 mm
Höhe:38 mm
Innenbreite:18 mm
Außenbreite: 28 mm
Höhe: 60 mm
Außenbreite: 28 mm
Höhe: 60 mm
Einsatzbereich Road / Cyclocross Road / Cyclocross Road / Cyclocross Road / Cyclocross
Gewicht1
(jeweils ±5%)
445 g 325 g 535 g 445 g
Bremsbeläge SwissStop Black Prince SwissStop Black Prince SwissStop Black Prince SwissStop Bla

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:32 pm 
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So that's 110kg of force. Why the 100kg limit?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:33 pm 
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iliedanila wrote:
1100 Nm? You sure?

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Yes i am sure!

Ax Lightness even uses higher torque value than this!
I checked with Tune and Ax.

I can assure you i got in contact with Tune directly some time ago when i considered using these wheels for a road, gravel and trail bike.
The rims are not built weak either. It's made the cope. I know Tune seller up here has guys riding these for CX races and it's working very well.

No worries amigo! So just roll with a smile on your new wheels :beerchug:

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 12, 2016 2:34 pm 
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iliedanila wrote:
So that's 110kg of force. Why the 100kg limit?

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Probably assured safety limits due to German laws.

If any concerns, i think you should get back to Petra and ask her to ask Harry in person. Then you for sure got it nailed!

EDIT: Maybe those 75Kg's were for the older Schwarzbrenner rims!?
I have no data to back it up, but i suspect it is.

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Btw, ll mail you a PM!

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