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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:07 am 
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Hello, budget +/- 2,5 KEUR.

Considering:
Cervelo R3
Colnago Rx-1
Colnago EP (if still available in my size)

Me - 90kg, not very powerfull amatour
Purpose - long trips on flats, average quality of surface

Current frame - Bianchi 928 Mono-Q, reason for change -TO BIG (long) and to heavy, stifness is quite OK for me as well as comfort.
Other bike setup: Campa Sr + Ciamillo GSL, Easton EC90 aero, Deda: Presa + Zero100Sc + Superzero, PRologo Scratch Nack, Keo Blade..

http://picasaweb.google.pl/DukezPOL/Bia ... 2913249858
http://picasaweb.google.pl/DukezPOL/Bia ... 6234525122


Anny recommendations, other proposals? Allowing older models, 2010 paint scheme is not a must.... Looking for good, known brand but definitely NOT one of popular market leaders as Spec, Trek, Giant, Merida and others...)

This must be long term decision and choice - I mainly ride on MTB and road is has to be built, ride once-twice a week and forget!
THX in advance and regards from Poland
Dukezpol


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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 10:57 am 
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The frames you propose would all do well.

I am also in your weight range and not... too powerful. I have an R3 and have no issues at all with stiffness. Guys I know riding the EP also have no problems.

So I guess you should attempt to test ride and find the one that fits you best and that gets your heart pumping.

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:09 pm 
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All are good frames. You wont be dissapointed with either.

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:21 pm 
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i disagree the cervelo wont last, they die too quickly.

of the other two cx-1 would be best, the ep wouldnt be that comfortable. get an eps!


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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 12:36 pm 
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You do notice he is asking about the R3 - not the R3SL, right? And even if it was the SL model hes only 90kg and "not very powerful amateur"... R3 is more than good for that

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 1:57 pm 
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90kg is still too much for a cervelo, ive seen too many ones with blown out rears to like them.


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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 3:34 pm 
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well, that's also the point. No doubts about Colnago but how about Cervelo R3 durability with my weight? These thin seatstays do not look very promising.... Any rumours about broken R3 after some usage?

This will be the bike for 3-4kkm/year. Once I change framset there, the project is closed I do not want to touch this within next 10 years probably...

EPS - thank you but over the budget. Also quite heavy...

Sorry, no chances for testride - regards from Poland! :)
I fully trust & believe however in your considerated advices!

Dukezpol


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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 3:36 pm 
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a.davis12 wrote:
90kg is still too much for a cervelo, ive seen too many ones with blown out rears to like them.

sorry but theres no weight limit on a R3,and 90kgs isnt really that heavy as a amateur rider, i know guys who are 110 with R3s
and ive never seen any R3 with seat stay damage...
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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 3:51 pm 
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Not sure if it's too "mainstream" for you, but I would consider a Cannondale SuperSix, or finding a nice System6- both are fantastic bikes and will have more than enough stiffness regardless of your weight...

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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 4:10 pm 
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Cannon SueprSix was also under consideration but all these BB complications makes me SICK. I do not want to change Campy SR crankset and all adapters are always some kind "problematic" and do need more often maintenance..


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PostPosted: Fri May 28, 2010 9:12 pm 
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dukezpol wrote:
Cannon SueprSix was also under consideration but all these BB complications makes me SICK. I do not want to change Campy SR crankset and all adapters are always some kind "problematic" and do need more often maintenance..


There's nothing to the SR adapter- I just put one in my Parlee Z5- it presses right in and the BB bearings thread into that. Or, go with any of the BB30 crank options- one of the lightest of which is Cannondale's Hollowgram- shifts well, extremely stiff, and dirty light. BB30 is a positive, not a "complication" IMO

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 6:55 am 
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2010 Duratec Cult.....?
Thought I'd go off the mainstream and go for Eastern Euro..... seemed fitting...
http://www.duratec.cz/en/modely/silnicni-kola/cult-cr3/
You can go full custom too.....


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 12:21 pm 
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Roobay wrote:
a.davis12 wrote:
90kg is still too much for a cervelo, ive seen too many ones with blown out rears to like them.

sorry but theres no weight limit on a R3,and 90kgs isnt really that heavy as a amateur rider, i know guys who are 110 with R3s
and ive never seen any R3 with seat stay damage...
cheers
jr

its not damage as such, more the rear end gets a bit soft, well very soft. we have one in the shop that you can bring the rear end quite close together. it also cracked along the top tube.


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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 1:43 pm 
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If only Cervelo had a lifetime warranty....
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How about a Scott? Cr series if you want more comfort, lightweight and a well known brand.

Or a Ridley Damocles? Or an Eddy Merckx?

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2010 2:10 pm 
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If you are not a slave to fashion, and want something that will last a long time, the Calfee Tetra Pro or Luna are excellent performing frames and are bullet proof. Calfee backs up the Tetra with a 25 year warranty and the Luna with 10yrs.

Must admit I haven't looked at current prices since my 7 year old Tetra needs no replacement. The visual of the Calfee doesn't appeal to everyone but the frames perform.


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