New bladed super spoke from Sapim. CX-Super

Back by popular demand, the general all-things Road forum!

Moderator: robbosmans

User avatar
Timebandit415
Posts: 112
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:07 pm
Location: San Mateo, California
Contact:

by Timebandit415

Hi, Just wondering if anybody in the WW forums as any experience on the new spoke from Sapim the bladed version of the Super Spoke.

http://hawleyusa.com/thcStore/Catalog/I ... d=SPOK4002
(these seem to be available to the public now)


Also does anybody know a reliable source to get 1.8 nipples? As these Spokes have a 1.8-1.4-1.8


-Chris

by Weenie


Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling components
Great Prices ✓    Broad Selection ✓    Worldwide Delivery ✓

www.starbike.com



User avatar
Timebandit415
Posts: 112
Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:07 pm
Location: San Mateo, California
Contact:

by Timebandit415

231 grams (64 pieces in 260mm length) - Bladed Super Spoke

278 grams (64pcs/260mm) - Cx-ray

User avatar
breezerboy
Shop Owner
Posts: 279
Joined: Fri Jun 22, 2007 8:14 pm
Location: Bristol, UK

by breezerboy

They build up really well, just like a CX-Ray, but lighter.

You get decent nipples with the spokes anyway, but DT and Sapim both sell nipples seperately - just go to your local shop/builder and they should have some/be able to get some. The site you've linked to lists the DT nipples (15G is 1.8mm, 14G is 2mm)

petal666
Posts: 965
Joined: Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:19 am
Location: Brisbane, Oz
Contact:

by petal666

I have hard enough time stopping CX-rays from twisting, even when holding them.

lalahsghost
Posts: 138
Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2008 9:02 pm
Location: West Virginia
Contact:

by lalahsghost

I'm really excited to get these for my 50mm carbon clinchers I hope to buy soon. I'll be doing a 20/24 spoke setup, so how/who do I negotiate with to get four spokes instead of buying another bag of 20? Anyone selling them in lower quantities? (thought I saw 10 somewhere...)

HakanC
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:09 pm
Location: Sweden

by HakanC

breezerboy wrote:15G is 1.8mm, 14G is 2mm

Is that really true?

bricky21
Posts: 1403
Joined: Tue Sep 14, 2010 3:28 pm

by bricky21

^ yes.

HakanC
Posts: 202
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:09 pm
Location: Sweden

by HakanC

bricky21 wrote:^ yes.


According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_wire_gauge
is
15G = 1.829 mm
14G = 2.032 mm

Why can't people stop using obsolete units!

BobSantini
Posts: 292
Joined: Sun Jul 10, 2011 9:03 am

by BobSantini

Unless I'm mistaken 17% decrease in weight implies 17% more stretch.
I was under the impression that stiffness not strength was the limiting factor in low spoke count wheels.
r o y g b i v

rruff
Shop Owner
Posts: 2196
Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:12 am
Location: Alto, NM

by rruff

BobSantini wrote:Unless I'm mistaken 17% decrease in weight implies 17% more stretch.
I was under the impression that stiffness not strength was the limiting factor in low spoke count wheels.


It will certainly be less stiff (~17% less). But if it is pre-tensioned the same amount, it will allow ~17% greater rim deflection before it goes slack... so it isn't all bad. Front wheels and the NDS could benefit from a lighter spoke in many applications, IMO.

User avatar
Adrien
WWotY 2007
Posts: 1479
Joined: Sat Jul 10, 2004 5:37 pm
Location: France.
Contact:

by Adrien

We have been building a first wheelset with these new spokes.
The result is outstanding, the wheelset is just 795g. The most important thing, in my opinion, is that this new spoke introduces a new era of spokes for weightweenies.
It is as easy to build as a standard DT Aerolite or Sapim Cx-ray, it doesn't twist, and it must be a really aero spoke.
Bladed cross section is just 2.1/0.75. Thread and head are 1.8mm.
This spoke is about 20% lighter than the Aerolite and Cx-ray.

I typed an article about it last week: http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-53429708.html

Image

Image

User avatar
ergott
Posts: 2870
Joined: Tue Apr 18, 2006 3:03 am
Location: Islip, NY
Contact:

by ergott

What internal nipples are available for these? I wanted to do a front wheel with them, but didn't find nipples.

bm0p700f
in the industry
Posts: 5777
Joined: Sat May 12, 2012 7:25 pm
Location: Glermsford, Suffolk U.K
Contact:

by bm0p700f

The Sapim site does not list the the bladed super spoke yet and the pic in the link just looked like the round super spoke. I don't doubt it exists but when will chickens be bringing them in they have yet to bring in the super spoke.

jdp211
Posts: 526
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2010 4:26 am

by jdp211

a few of the distributers were showing superspoke availability a few weeks ago when i was pricing out a wheel build, super light, super expensive.

by Weenie


Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling components
Great Prices ✓    Broad Selection ✓    Worldwide Delivery ✓

www.starbike.com



User avatar
madcow
Shop Owner
Posts: 3740
Joined: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:22 pm
Location: Tucson, Az.
Contact:

by madcow

I understand why they used the 1.8 for the supers but still think it was a bad choice. The super series were developed in conjunction with Tune and Tune is fine with mostly using standard nipples which means they don't have the same compatibility issues.

Personally I prefer the megalite which has a 2.0 threading. We've been testing some wheels with them for a few months now and have been quite impressed with them. The only issue I have with them is that the black is not the same matte black as a DT aerolite or CxRay so if you are mixing spokes DS and NDS using megalites there is a little difference in appearance. However the megalite on it's own has a really nice looking "black" finish which looks a bit like gun metal.

Post Reply