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Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:51 am
by Artisan
I'm in the process of dissecting an EPS power unit in an attempt to reduce it and find a more 'stealth' position on or in a frame.

Has anyone on WW tried to use a seperate power source and/or place the 'brain' in the frame? It's not a small unit and could prove problematic trying to waterproof properly.

If I actually manage to pull this off, I will post more. Otherwise :oops:


Here is a sneak peek.

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Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:41 am
by Omiar
Is the PCB small enough, so that after removing the battery and making a custom case for the PCB, it still fits inside a frame?

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 7:41 am
by Weenie

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Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:26 am
by maxxevv
Interesting why they need what looks like a pretty large circuit board (by relative embedded electronics standards) ? :shock:

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:34 pm
by sugarkane
You do understand how small those surface mounted resisters are in real life?

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:11 pm
by maxxevv
If you want a relative size, the SMD marked at R20 (222 on it) is approximately 1.5~2 mm in width (measured left to right). When you scale up the board as we see here, you get the relative scale of things.

From what I've seen for embedded devices, this is quite big comparatively, especially considering we are not seeing the whole board yet.

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:39 pm
by CharlesM
Size doesn't have to be a problem...

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cost and capability however...

Not everyone is a Fairwheel.

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:47 am
by Ufgators
which groupset is in that picture?

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:25 am
by Werdna
Those are TRP brake levers, with, I'm assuming, an integrated EPS shifter button.

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:31 am
by Artisan
The PCB or whatever it's called is almost the height (width) of the EPS power unit (40mm). The battery is rather small and I'm sure open to options in the future.

After speaking to a few people, the hard part will be to leave the PCB intact and re-house it safely and not mess with the electrical conductivity/signals (I'm obviously no electrical expert). I'm hoping to re-connect the battery seperately and allow the two seperate units to be placed inside a frame.

One thing though, I don't think anyone will be putting one inside a stem...

It (was) a very well made, water tight unit. No question about that!

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 8:40 am
by mrfish
I would take a look at how electric helicopter / boat / car crowd package their electronics. On helis they use heavy duty heatshrink to protect speed controller electronics and that's it. Not familiar with the others, but I'm sure a search at rcgroups.com and a couple of questions will help.

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:16 am
by sugarkane
you could also set the controller pcb in epoxy that will environmentalize the unit pretty well.. you wana be sure of what your up to though as once its done, its done

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:18 am
by maxxevv
Maybe you can post some picts of the complete board next to a ruler ? (40mm width seems bigger than what I was expecting. What about length ?)

It would be useful for people to come up with suggestions of how to package it though.

Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:18 am
by Weenie

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Re: Has anyone here tried to modify an EPS power unit?

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 4:31 pm
by Omiar
I wouldn't be too worried about the re-housing.
I would suggest to have the case 3D printed. I would use a profile joint between the two sides and use some sealant when putting it togheter. For connectors, source some MIL grade connectors from local Radioshack store.