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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 3:57 pm 
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Anyone here own a Pioneer Powermeter and can give some real life impression on it? Would be cool if someone has a real comparison between other Powermeters.
I could not find any real life reviews, all were from "commercial" sites/blogs.
Wondering if it has any known failures, etc...

Thanks!


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:07 pm 
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The DCR review should be out next week according to the bottom of the P2Max review

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Preemptive ‘When will I review X power meter’ section: This review kicks off what will likely be bi-weekly direct force power meter reviews for the foreseeable future. Much of the data has actually been gathered over the last 4-6 months, just a case of analyzing data and writing up reviews. Next you’ll see the Verve Infocrank review, followed by the Pioneer unit. Then, some variant of a 4iiii Precision review (left only initially with follow-up dual-sided piece when it releases), then we’ve got PowerTap’s P1 pedals followed by the C1 unit. Somewhere in there I’ll re-visit the Polar pedals once the Polar V650 supports them. But as usual, anything else that pops out will be slotted based on a combination of when it got into the queue and reader interest/demand.)


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:16 am 
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Over the last few years I have used just about every power meter available, and have been using a pioneer every day for the last 3 months. My impression has been very good, with accurate, repeatable, reliable data. No issues with the unit itself, and the volume of data ( torque vectors etc) is just immense. The head unit is a bit clunky, but highly functional and a non issue once it's set up. Overall I have been really pleased!


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 10:54 am 
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I've had mine for a little over 2 months. So far its been reliable, gives numbers that match my other PM's but with a ton more data. Only issue is it seems to be battery hungry, 140hrs use and seen 2 sets of batteries so far. Head unit is fine for the data but the gps seems hit and miss on it speed wise. Pioneers cyclo-sphere has been pretty decent to use but I would like to see a non-cloud based version of it. Maybe wko+ 4.0 will be able to utilize the data in a similar fashion?


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2015 3:24 pm 
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Thanks everyone!
Lucky i waited a little bit, Pioneer just reduced their price of the "BYOD" bundle to 999$, so i just need to purchase a Dura-Ace FC-9000 Crankset and send it to them.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:14 pm 
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Infin1ty wrote:
Lucky i waited a little bit, Pioneer just reduced their price of the "BYOD" bundle to 999$, so i just need to purchase a Dura-Ace FC-9000 Crankset and send it to them.


fezi wrote:
I've had mine for a little over 2 months.


clarkson wrote:
Over the last few years I have used just about every power meter available, and have been using a pioneer every day for the last 3 months.


Any of you guys have info on temperature drift and the auto zero feature you can set up by calibrating at different temperatures? It's unclear whether it's available for every head unit or just with pioneer's own one. Thanks!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 1:57 am 
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I have the Pioneer powermeter and head unit. I can't prove it because I haven't tried a different head unit but the Pioneer manual says that the calibration data and software is in the powermeter itself. When you have a different head unit and run the calibration it claims to run the same software as with the Pioneer head unit. The only difference is both arms are always calibrated at the same time. With the Pioneer head unit you can calibrate the arms separately one at a time or together two at a time.

As an aside, the temperature compensation seems to work quite well. When I look at the offset values they are always within the +/-3N tolerance regardless of the temperature.

Another cool feature is that CycloSphere will now automatically indicate where you are sitting and where you are standing on you rides and you can do statistics on the standing and sitting portions sepearately. Not sure what to do with the data but it is interesting to look at.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:02 am 
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djwalker wrote:
I have the Pioneer powermeter and head unit. I can't prove it because I haven't tried a different head unit but the Pioneer manual says that the calibration data and software is in the powermeter itself. When you have a different head unit and run the calibration it claims to run the same software as with the Pioneer head unit. The only difference is both arms are always calibrated at the same time. With the Pioneer head unit you can calibrate the arms separately one at a time or together two at a time.

As an aside, the temperature compensation seems to work quite well. When I look at the offset values they are always within the +/-3N tolerance regardless of the temperature.

Another cool feature is that CycloSphere will now automatically indicate where you are sitting and where you are standing on you rides and you can do statistics on the standing and sitting portions sepearately. Not sure what to do with the data but it is interesting to look at.


Thank you! Very useful!


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:31 am 
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Last month I noticed that one my friend had installed one on his bike and I asked how it was going; he was a bit pissed cause for example the little "battery door" (donno what word to use) was coming off and he had to put a little paper inside to keep everything pressed.

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