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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:45 am 
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hello

this is not exactly a weight weenies topic but there are people here who knows a lot I need some clarification and advice
i found in a auction site this frame and fell in love with it
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is nothing special is columbus steel and have some nice lugs and frame details.
now mi doubt is what do with that?
first i whant do a really nice cool paint job (where i dont have problems, "paint is my thing"), but then do what?
fixie?
truth faithful restoration? (budget issues)
assemble in the cheapest way so that i can ride it?


other question i found that groupset what could you tel me about it, i think is a valentino
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:28 pm 
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having built old bikes back up, I can tell you they always cost more than you budget for. the old bikes cost more than modern bikes in my case.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 11:49 pm 
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I am sure that.
i have now finished my new venge and and blow the budjet, but i am a projects guy and i need to find my new money pit, but this is my first old bike,

my favorite groupset is shimano arabesque, i just love it and there are a few on ebay, what do you think about arabesque, and about that campy in the photo


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:24 am 
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I don't think there's any match between the frame which looks to be '90's and the antique Campy bits (50's ?).

Other than that, I'm no help.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:34 am 
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The catalog archive over at campyonly.com should allow you to date and model those components


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 2:32 pm 
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I have not found a catalog pre-1953. The Gran Sport RD came out in 1950 and had limit screws at the side. I cannot identify that RD from the "50's catalogs I looked at although it certainly looks to be of that vintage. Perhaps a lower level?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 4:05 pm 
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and about arabesque what you guys have to say?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 5:43 pm 
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OP you are right about it looking like a Valantino set. Which would make it from the '60's. The catalogs from that era are not easy to find. It appears in a slightly different form in the '67 catalog.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:05 pm 
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Yup, the Valentino group was my first exposure to Campagnolo. Was fascinated by how it looked compared to the plastic Simplex derailleur that I thought was the best thing ever at the time. Seems every bike I had back then was inevitably stolen. Not the best childhood neighborhood. Sorry can't tell you much more about it. But seeing it brings back memories for sure.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:07 pm 
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tanks, even if i dont use it in that frame, de seller wants 50€ do you think i should buy it for other ocasion or not worth anything


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2015 11:36 pm 
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My experience with buying and selling Campy parts does not go back this far, but in general well worn parts from a lower group are worth diddly squat.

They look like more of a conversation piece than anything you'd actually want to use on a bike.

If you are really interested in value you could try the "completed sales" search on eBay, but sadly they don't keep results for too long.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2015 12:48 am 
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That old campagnolo kit is a bit dated for the frame. Will the rear mech even fit as you probably have a proper hanger to bolt a mech onto.

8 speed veloce or a then a is not too expensive to buy neither is 9 speed and they work well. You could try shimano 6401/2 as that simply works very well all day long. Arabesque while pretty is early 80's and looks to early for the frame beside the single pivot brakes are a bit lacking which is fine for a play bike but for something to ride regularly then a dual pivot brake like the 6402 is far better.

So you can see which groupset I like practical ones. Your frame looks practical that why.

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I would not spend any money on this frame or this groupset.

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