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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:41 am 
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Hi there,

I'm having a very hard time deciding over whether to get a really cheap, brand new Time ZXRS ($3000, rrp6000) or a second hand 2014 Ridley Helium SL ($2100, rrp3700)

What I want: I want a responsive racing bike that excels at climbing. I've only owned rouleurs bikes in the past (on an 08 Ridley Noah now), but at only 60kg (140pounds), I want a bike that suits my strength - climbing. Where I live, all the racing is a little hilly, so I want to get my bike below 7kg. (obviously weight is going to be highly dependent upon spec... Will be putting DA9000, enve finishing kit and some HED's on)

Thus, it makes sense to get the helium... but... The Time will hold its value to a greater extent than will the Ridley, its a better deal, and its aesthetically superior... and I get a warranty with the time

Thanks for your advice!


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:39 am 
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A lighter frame will not make you a better climber (i.e. Rolland is one of the best climbers and he rides a 'heavy' frame). If climbing is your main priority then Ridley will be fine. Otherwise Time is a much better frame overall.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:11 am 
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kgt wrote:
A lighter frame will not make you a better climber (i.e. Rolland is one of the best climbers and he rides a 'heavy' frame). If climbing is your main priority then Ridley will be fine. Otherwise Time is a much better frame overall.


I cant imagine that 250g is going to make a huge difference to your climbing ability... but I was more so referring to the particularl quality that the Helium is supposed to be renowned for - You dont hear people saying the ZXRS is a stiff bike... I think I might just go with the Time for the prestige of the brand name and the inherent value alone.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 2:33 pm 
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I bet with a little planning, there would be no trouble getting the Time under 7kgs (unless you're looking at the largest possible frame and you're a little heavier/strong hence need to stay away from anything lightweight). Heck, without really going with any super light components, you can easily get a side medium under the UCI 6.8kg mark with D/A 9000.

The ZXRS is a great frame and really versatile. Great long distance comfort, good aerodynamics, light enough, but more importantly, stiff enough for efficient climbing. It also descends like a dream.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 3:10 am 
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A lighter frame will not make you a better climber but it will make you clime better :-).
I would go for longer top tube and shorter head tube with all things being equal.
Looks like you are set on Time anyway but my Helium is 5.6 kilos.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 03, 2014 6:32 am 
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Serge58 wrote:
A lighter frame will not make you a better climber but it will make you clime better :-).
I would go for longer top tube and shorter head tube with all things being equal.
Looks like you are set on Time anyway but my Helium is 5.6 kilos.


I havent had the pleasure of riding a bike around the 6kg mark, but I've heard you really can feel the difference. I mean if your pumping out 350watts on a short sharp hill in a race (which is nearly 6w/kg for me) I reckon having a bike thats nearly 2kg lighter will make a significant difference. What spec are you running to get it to 5.7kg!? thats crazy light


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2014 1:21 pm 
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audiojan wrote:
I bet with a little planning, there would be no trouble getting the Time under 7kgs (unless you're looking at the largest possible frame and you're a little heavier/strong hence need to stay away from anything lightweight). Heck, without really going with any super light components, you can easily get a side medium under the UCI 6.8kg mark with D/A 9000.

The ZXRS is a great frame and really versatile. Great long distance comfort, good aerodynamics, light enough, but more importantly, stiff enough for efficient climbing. It also descends like a dream.


I bought the Time... couldnt get past the 'specialness' of a handmade french bike. I'll post photos and a detailed review once I get it up and running. ETA two months


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 3:31 pm 
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I was really hoping you would of come back and described your ride with the ZXRS a little earlier than expected. I tried to do a lot research on the TIME but can't find as much as I was hoping. As popular as they are, it's kind of a special club to own one. People just don't talk about them too much. People that do say they're one of the best frames to ride on. I've also noticed a few bike shop owners and some employers ride Time.

I'm coming from an M10 and was planning to get the C60. Truthfully, I just like riding what others don't. (Not that there's anything wrong with Trek/Giant/Cannondale/Specialize, but they're just not for me). So when I got to the shop to order the C60 the guy tried to talk me into the ZXRS. That's when I came across your post.

I went ahead and got the ZXRS a couple weeks ago and tomorrow I'll be picking it up. I'll be running Super Record Campy's and Bora Ultra two's wheels. I decided to change the cranks to SR Campy 172.5 50/34 because I live in a hilly area and an average ride is about 50 miles and 3500 ft climb circle.

Don't get me wrong, the M10 has been an amazing climber and definitely stiff enough but after 70 miles, I'm starting to feel it. I was told the ZXRS won't have this issue. There were other reasons I went with TIME so we'll see. I'll follow up with you guys in about 30 days. First ride is Friday 7/4 for 6800 feet. Gosh I hope I made the right decision. :roll:


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