Budget Race Frame

Discuss light weight issues concerning road bikes & parts.
lannes
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by lannes

I'm just building a Litespeed L1r as a race frame, was interested in it for the bb386 bottom bracket, the frame is about 800gbp.

phlip
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by phlip

I just stumbled across this new frame by the German brand Quantec: http://quantec.ccmsport.de/index.php?id=66 Looks pretty sweet IMHO. Tapered head tube, internal cable routing for mechanical and electronic. 469 € for the frame without a fork.

And Pro-Lite has updated their Cuneo with a tapered head tube for 2013: http://www.pro-lite.net/road-frames/cuneo-gp#page

By the way, who bought the last Pro-Lite Cuneo for 130 GBP from Chain Reaction Cycles? That was supposed to be mine >:| ;-)

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justinn
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by justinn

NealH wrote:Allez OSBB. Its knocking on the door of the best available, at a fraction of the cost.


I raced a 2012 Allez OSBB and didn't have any complaints. You can occasionally find frames cheap on eBay and they're a lot hardier than CAADs - my buddy crashed his CAAD10 and managed to bend the down tube. Not saying that couldn't happen on an Allez, but they're a lot cheaper to replace since you seem to be budget minded.

istigatrice
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by istigatrice

Thought I'd give this a bump. I'm considering a 2008 BMC roadracer sl01 (used), Velocite Selene (new) or Pro-Lite Cuneo (non GP, new).

BMC is the heaviest, Pro-Lite the lightest frame but Velocite the lightest overall package (assuming Bora fork weight is accurrate).

Really torn between the 3 of them. Can't really get the Allez or the CAAD to fall into my budget which I'm actually thankful about (being torn between 5 frames would suck). Has anyone got a horror story with one of these bikes so I can strike them off my list?
I write the weightweenies blog, hope you like it :)

Disclosure: I'm sponsored by Velocite, but I do give my honest opinion about them (I'm endorsed to race their bikes, not say nice things about them)

Calpol
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by Calpol

Kinesis Aethein. Lovely frame. Light and very stiff. Cheaper than caad or canyon.

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PDXWheels
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by PDXWheels

Same question....I'm shopping the closeouts, looking for something <1000g and <$1000, or thereabouts or a complete for <$2500.

I generally ride XS or 48-50cm frames.

Leaders so far are:
Ridley Helium
2008 Scott Addict R4 - anybody got a frame weight for this?
2013 Giant TCR Advanced

Any other ideas? PM links if necessary. Thanks.

HeluvaSkier
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by HeluvaSkier

@istigatrice, go with the Selene. I own two of them. They are bombproof, stiff, and fast. I ride mine with tubulars and the ride is very comfortable.

loudtiger
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by loudtiger

PDXWheels wrote:Same question....I'm shopping the closeouts, looking for something <1000g and <$1000, or thereabouts or a complete for <$2500.

I generally ride XS or 48-50cm frames.

Leaders so far are:
Ridley Helium
2008 Scott Addict R4 - anybody got a frame weight for this?
2013 Giant TCR Advanced

Any other ideas? PM links if necessary. Thanks.


My 2008 Scott Addict R1 56cm frame is 872g. I imagine a 48 or 50cm R4 would be comparable or in the same range, <900g.

thechemist
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by thechemist

So it looks like specialized no longer has the basic allez frameset available. S-works allez frameset is the only option. That or tear down the cheapest build which is $770

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53x12
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by 53x12

^ Is that for 2015? That is a bit disappointing if true.
"Marginal gains are the only gains when all that's left to gain is in the margins."

thechemist
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by thechemist

53x12 wrote:^ Is that for 2015? That is a bit disappointing if true.

correct

Exar
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by Exar

You might not want to go this route, but my Chinarello Dogma 2-a-like came in at 906 gram for the bare frame (of course, you have to use the 400 gram fork, 20 gram seatpost clamp and 220 gram seatpost, so any really lightweight options are out of the question). Price was $600 including shipping.

**Edit: weight was for a size 57 frame. I'm still not sure if I should be lucky or afraid that it's this light...
Chains to the right!

ultyguy
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by ultyguy

A vote for Ridley here, even Excalibur (just a lower mod carbon than the Helium and w/out ISP). Handling on it comes tops of all the bikes I have (AR1, Defy SL). Another option is a Cannondale super six (non EVO) as that was judged the stiffest pedaling stiffness frame ever tested and they can be had for cheap now.

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LouisN
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by LouisN

I'm also looking for a budget race frame with BB30 (PF30). I cracked my frame yesterday...:(

Prefferably below 1200g for the size 52 frame.
Being in Canada, the Canyon Ultimate Al is out.
Besides the CAAD10 and Allez Smartweld, I also thought Jamis Icon.
Stevens Vuelta maybe, but being in Scandium it must be expensive...

Louis :)

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istigatrice
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by istigatrice

@Louis

I was in a very similar position. I was about to toss a coin and buy a Pro-Lite Cuneo or a Velocite Selene (but ended up getting a second hand Teschner Euro Pro :lol: ). The Velocite Selene has BB30, the Cuneo does not. I guess that makes your choice easy...
I write the weightweenies blog, hope you like it :)

Disclosure: I'm sponsored by Velocite, but I do give my honest opinion about them (I'm endorsed to race their bikes, not say nice things about them)

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