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can any one can recommend some tools other then park tools

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If youre after actual "T" handle ones, Wiha are very good, but i really like PB Swiss. Their stuff is top notch, customer service is excellent, but the price is high. You get what you pay for there. Pb swiss makes them in torx as well.

Bondhus are another good brand, at least better than Park. I have a set of their T Handle Torx wrenches and they are doing the job nicely.

Thanks guys,
Those brands are sweet, exactly what I needed

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Bondhus are quality tools.

What? You mean Torx? Do you want P handles or T handles?

All of the following, I think, do both star and hex P handles. Some do ball hex, but none do ball star.

Park
VAR
Cyclus
Pedro's
Cyclo
BBB
Bici Support

Bondhus for T handles.

ball star

Is there such an animal?

Ball hex is a must IMO

pawnii wrote:

ball star

Is there such an animal?

Ball hex is a must IMO

I'd skip ball on the smaller hex's like 2,2.5, and 3

pawnii wrote:

ball star

Is there such an animal?

BallStar might be a Bondhus patent, because they are the only ones doing them - in regular wrench format and not with handles.

I got some of the Ball Stars (of course. Im such a tool wh0re). Not always useful, but occasionally a lifesaver. Never seen them by any other company either.

thisisatest wrote:I got some of the Ball Stars (of course. Im such a tool wh0re). Not always useful, but occasionally a lifesaver. Never seen them by any other company either.

Remember. Bike tools aren't a matter of life or death ... they are more important than that.

guys, thank you again, one more question, do you guys think that I should invest in hex and torq sockets and use with with my park beam torque wrench? or go with the T wrenches? Can some one recommend a good torque wrench thats good around a bike, other then the park beam I already have, thanks

ps: what size torq zipp uses for their stems?

Check out CDI (Snap-on) torque wrenches. Quality tools better than the stuff typically marketed for bicycles. Their model 1502MRMH has a torque range of 2.8-15.3 which suffices for most bike applications.

Topeak digi-torq wrench is very nice. 1-20nm range (5%-100% range is unusual), small, compact, comes with bits, split beam electronic torque measurement means you dont have to "dial it down" after every setting like spring types, works on left hand threads too. Purchase a hex bit extension to get it into weird places.
Also good is, again, pbswiss torque handle. Its expensive, though, and is spring based, and its range is not as nice (3.2-16nm). But its style of ergonomics is more useful, faster, and by design you cant exceed the set torque- itll just click through. Also designed to handle loosening of hardware, breakaway torque going left is approx double the setting. So not to reef on, but if youre tightening your post clamp, realise it's askew, you dont have to put it down and reach for a regular wrench to undo.
Cdi makes very handy preset torque handles in 4,5,6nm, better designed and more ergo than the ritchey torque key.

Ideallly youd have a good set of wrenches as well as the torque wrench.

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Topeak digi-torq, can you guys give more some more reviews on this?
it pretty sweet though