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EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:19 am
by KH1
http://roadcyclinguk.com/news/gear-news ... -3920.html

Is there a lighter production frame available today?

EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:19 am
by Weenie

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:49 am
by konky
Incredible weight.

5.2kg has to be the lightest off the peg bike by some margin. Anyone that has built a lightweight rig knows how hard it is to get lower than that even with custom uber light German componants and 'climbing' wheels.

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:29 am
by BobSantini
Its interesting that they claim virtually equivalent air drag to competing aero roadies because of reduced tube diameters.
I wonder how an old steely compares to a modern aero roady in that respect.

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:57 am
by sugarkane
That's 5.2 with out peddles or bottle cages remember..

And for that much money you can have a much nicer bike that weighs the same.

Impressive for one of the big companies but I'd never waste my money on one.

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:11 pm
by sawyer
BobSantini wrote:Its interesting that they claim virtually equivalent air drag to competing aero roadies because of reduced tube diameters.
I wonder how an old steely compares to a modern aero roady in that respect.



Didn't Tour include the Evo in their frame test?

IIRC correctly from 0 degree wind it is aero but with typical yaw values it loses ground quickly. The RCUK article re. 14g drag is meaningless without this kind of context.

Apparently they feel dead which isn't what I'd want in a frame, even if it's 300g lighter than anything I've got right now.

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 1:36 pm
by LouisN
sugarkane wrote:That's 5.2 with out peddles or bottle cages remember..

And for that much money you can have a much nicer bike that weighs the same.

Impressive for one of the big companies but I'd never waste my money on one.


+1

And that's a CLAIMED weight.

We might encounter two or three weenies that buy a (very small limited edition) frame close to those numbers. For the other few dozens who buy the ones weighing the extra 100 g...

...

Louis :)

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:23 pm
by ave
>And for that much money you can have a much nicer bike that weighs the same.
Nicer? That's not very likely, if one finds the EVO nice. Many do.

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 2:50 pm
by sugarkane
Sorry but for what amounts To $11700 US I'd want something a bit more unique
It's a bit like a ministry of sound CD pay the money get what seems to be Kool/in/hip... Etc
If your gona drop that kinda coin on a bike that's 1.5kgs under the Uci weight limit wouldn't you want to at least get a pair of THM cranks?

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 6:37 pm
by konky
Not everyone wants to buy a frame and do a build. The currant Evo is a light frame but you can only buy a full build which is pretty average in weight.

The new Evo at 5.2kg for a complete bike is very light and for the first time offers a complete bike at a genuine WW weight.

Very impressive in my view.

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:57 pm
by Kastrup
I have to agree with Sugarkane on this one (not that the two of us have any history of disagreeing). If i were to spend that much money on a new bike i would prefer to individually pick each and every part.
I would like to know if Cannondale launched this very light production model because they thought there was a market for it, or simply to show that it'a not that hard to build/buy a very very light bike. Much lighter than what the pros are riding fx.

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:10 pm
by runningrunningjump
I think here on WW there will be plenty of people who don't think the 2013 cannondale supersix evo nano is very good value. Cannondale is rarely 'good value'.

However, they should be applauded for the effort they put in. Without brands capable of proper r&d what would the lazy brands have to copy a few years later!

I kinda sit on both sides,

yes no doubt any WW member could build as good a bike for less or a lighter bike for the same.id certainly like to see someone buy a nano frame and build it to the limit! Just how much lighter is possible.

Not everyone wants to build a bike, what with all the shops constantly telling them if they change their own brake pads they'll die!!!! I was told that I shouldnt buy zero gravity brakes as they were dangerous!!! They happen to be just fine thank you, and now SRAM is half copying the idea... Fancy that!!!!! What was I saying about true r&d and lazy copying.........


Keep it up cannondale. I wouldn't buy anything else.....

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 8:44 pm
by airwise
I certainly wouldn't waste my money on a boutique brand when the likes of Cannondale and Trek are producing class leading bikes.

I buy a bike to ride it - not to impress other people on the road or Internet.

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:40 pm
by djconnel
Cannondale and Specialized in particular have had a long practice of producing top-level complete bikes for the "money is no object" component of the market. You can do much better picking and choosing your own components: I suggest you even price out the components stock on the bike and I suspect the bundle can be had for a significant savings. It's just to separate people from their stock options.

On the frame side: the original Evo was an "effective weight" which was adjusted downward for various features. If this one is indeed lighter than the previous that's impressive, but let's see the real-world numbers.

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 9:57 pm
by artray
+ 1 lets see the real weights . So far we still have not seen an Evo as advertised at 695grms. It seems to be the same with almost all off the shelf bikes and also parts . So many times you see someone dissapointed with the weight of there frame and then they say "well its still a pretty good weight" they would say that after spending $5000 on a bike . The advertised weight should be what it is in real terms not a bare frame unpainted and no hanger no paint etc etc. Honesty .

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:43 pm
by sawyer
Perhaps the claimed weight will only be rolled out on complete builds??? :wink:

Re: EVO Lighter still.....

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:43 pm
by Weenie