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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:43 am 
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I want to buy a set of tubular wheels. My priorities are light weight, performance in heavy wind and road shock absorption. I am between two wheels.

1. Enve 25 (lighter in weight), 25 mm height, 5 year warranty, 50% crash replacement discount, easy to get replacement parts, requires valve extenders, can buy at wheelbulder.com (near my home) and get free lifetime spoke adjustments.
2. Campagnolo Hyperon 13mm height, industrial art.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:46 am 
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Go with the Enves. The warranty is a no brainer. Additionally, the molded spoke holes will be able to handle high tension much better than the drilled design of the Hyperons.
The Enves will also allow you to lace a hub of your choice, where as you will be limited with the Campy wheels.
However, since your looking for performance in high winds, I am not sure the 25 is the best choice. I have found that the 3.4s (more so the 6.7s) almost get more stable in crosswinds. Just a thought though.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:55 am 
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Zen Cyclery wrote:
Go with the Enves. The warranty is a no brainer. Additionally, the molded spoke holes will be able to handle high tension much better than the drilled design of the Hyperons.
The Enves will also allow you to lace a hub of your choice, where as you will be limited with the Campy wheels.
However, since your looking for performance in high winds, I am not sure the 25 is the best choice. I have found that the 3.4s (more so the 6.7s) almost get more stable in crosswinds. Just a thought though.

I called Enve and they told me the 25 was more stable in the wind and had better road shock comfort than the 3.4s.

I can't afford to make a $3K mistake.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 5:50 am 
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Just curious, where in exactly in Los Angeles area will you be riding in high wind? EM3

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:51 am 
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em3 wrote:
Just curious, where in exactly in Los Angeles area will you be riding in high wind? EM3


I ride around the Palos Verdes Peninsula most people ride in the morning when there is no wind. I ride late in the afternoon On PV drive south and some sections of PV drive east in the winter the wind can kick up from the ocean. I have had experience where I have had trouble handling the bike in those winds. Perhaps it was a wheel balance problem.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 8:45 am 
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I ride the Palos Verdes loop very often, and I agree that the winds get very strong. It can't be a wheel imbalance issue, because on my low profile Easton EA90SLX's, I still get pushed around by the wind. I'm 6'0 and 160 lbs for reference.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:48 am 
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Get the hyperons - they're the best wheels available.

The hubs are superb, the geometry gives a wheel that's laterally stiffer than anything else out there.

They've been around for 10 or 11 years, virtually unchanged - that tells you everything you need to know about the quality of the design.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:27 am 
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Hyperons are used in PR and Flanders. I secound the Campag wheel some of if not the best wheels out.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:30 pm 
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Hyperons of course

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:54 pm 
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You should be able to get a deal on Hyperons. They are stiff and durable by all accounts.

They lose points on aero however.

Particularly against Zipp 202s which I'd throw into the mix. I have a set and rate them highly. More like riding a deeper aero wheel that the wind can't get at. Sub 1100g also.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:06 pm 
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I've haven't ridden the Hyperon's, but I have the Enve 25's, which are very nice wheels indeed. I live in an area with a fair amount of wind, but I've never ever noticed them in crosswinds.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:23 pm 
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windy area means you want something aero and manageable ...


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:03 pm 
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A thread like this has to mention Zipp 303s. You can find very good condition 2010-11 models (beginning of firecrest) for about $1200 on that auction site.


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If you get the Enve 25's, think carefully about the spokes, as aero (bladed) spokes may significantly increase cross-wind handling problems vs. round spokes.


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