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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:15 pm 
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Im thinking about getting the above crankset for my canyon CF ultimate frame and was looking for some feedback.

The higher spec full bikes from canyon come with the RS crank and the RRS only saves 4g and has ceramic bearings. Is it worth the extra?

Im trying to make the bike as light as possible so what are the alternatives to this around the same price that might be lighter?

Is sram red 2011 or force with lightened chanrings just as good?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:28 pm 
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SRAM Red 2012, switch chainrings to your preference, get a 3rd party BB such as HSC or Reset Racing to save a lot (a lot) of weight.
Your total crankset is likely to come in sub 600g (or just over if GXP & compact), at a total price that is very competitive.
Stiffness of SRAM Red is already highly ranked.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:52 pm 
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With the 2012 SRAM Red do I then need to use the 2012 FD and levers to get it to work properly?

Or is it just if your using the FD you need to use the new levers?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:01 pm 
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Wait, I'm confused now. Aren't you only asking about a crankset? :noidea:

Cranksets are independent of whatever drivetrain you are using.
You can have any drivetrain and virtually any crankset so long as the speeds (11 or 10) are compatible on the chainrings. Everything else is independent of your shifters, derailleurs, chain.
Splitting a crankset up you can then bring weights down.
Crankset = crank arms (w/ or w/o spindle) + chainrings + chainring bolts + bottom bracket.

To answer the rest of your questions, should you have any:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/03/ ... ity_209270

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:15 pm 
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Sorry about the confusion. My thinking was that the 2012 SRAM red with the Yaw function was only compatible with the 2012 cranks and levers so it all works as a package.

Thinking about it now the cranks and chain rings shouldnt make a difference to what the FD does.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:18 am 
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RMcC wrote:
Im thinking about getting the above crankset for my canyon CF ultimate frame and was looking for some feedback.

The higher spec full bikes from canyon come with the RS crank and the RRS only saves 4g and has ceramic bearings. Is it worth the extra?

Im trying to make the bike as light as possible so what are the alternatives to this around the same price that might be lighter?

Is sram red 2011 or force with lightened chanrings just as good?

Thanks


For the Fulcrum cranks, it's not the 4 grams difference that is significant - rather it's the superb performance of the Cult (by Campagnolo) ceramic bearings on the higher end version that makes it totally worth the upgrade. When it comes to Fulcrum vs SRAM, go beyond just which is lighter......seek optimal performance over the long term.........do a search about SRAM BB bearings and the wider chainring spacing on the new RED.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:20 am 
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As much as I applaud Tommasini's undying "Italian or nothing" love, the aformentioned weight would be with a BB that is not from SRAM, such as HSC bearings or Reset racing...

which, again, just like those oft-famed "Cult" bearings, are superior to the standard, SRAM bearings.
But hey, guess what? You then get the great bearings from HSC and a far better weight than the Fulcrum stuff.

...and we already mentioned changing out the chainrings, earlier in this thread, Tommasini.

Stiffness & amazing bearings over the long term, light weight at a good price? Who knew you can have everything?

Quite a number of us. :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:37 pm 
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Would a 2011 crank with the upgraded BB and chainrings weigh much more than the 2012?

And does anyone know if there is anywhere in the uk to get the above mentioned BB's?

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