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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:31 pm 
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I'm going to buy a new racing frameset and I'm choosing between these two aero frames.
I want to know which frame is better.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:15 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:32 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:48 pm 
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Bianchi Oltre is aero?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 2:56 pm 
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At least it looks stunning.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:20 pm 
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+1 for the Bianchi

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:42 pm 
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lokoli wrote:
I want to know which frame is better.


Better for what?

Better for aero?
Better for posing?
Better for bling?
Better for mockery?
Better for your wallet?
Better for the ladies?
Better for rough roads?
Better for climbing?
Better for photography?
Better for dry humping?
Better for resale?
Better for mechanics?
Better for customizing?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 5:53 pm 
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Bianchi for the looks.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 8:48 pm 
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And performance.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:12 pm 
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Buy the one that matches your shoes. Seriously ask a sensible question dude.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 10:13 pm 
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prendrefeu wrote:
lokoli wrote:
I want to know which frame is better.


Better for what?

Better for aero?
Better for posing?
Better for bling?
Better for mockery?
Better for your wallet?
Better for the ladies?
Better for rough roads?
Better for climbing?
Better for photography?
Better for dry humping?
Better for resale?
Better for mechanics?
Better for customizing?


Yes. See my previous answer :D


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 12:06 am 
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And for it's Nano tech.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 10:00 am 
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The Venge will make you as fast as the world champion because that's what he rode before swapping it for a Dogma2 but looking at your body type I think the geometry of the 54cm Oltre would better suit you.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 1:55 pm 
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As the FNG, you're going to get that here.

I haven't ridden the Oltre, but have friends that ride it. They seem to like it just fine. As for the Venge, for some reason it gets a lot of heat (I suspect from people who don't have a whole lot of hours on it).

My experience to date on the Venge has been excellent. It is almost as stiff as any other bike I have had. With respect to aero, it feels fast, but other than getting some track time, I don't think you will get anything more than anecdotal stories. I am the first to admit that the bikes in my collection are not necessarily indicative of the performance of the stock bike, but in is case, I believe that the bike I am on has a layup schedule identical to the stock bike (ok, it's the McLaren, but at least you can actually buy it).

I am on a 54. The only thing I don't like is that the headtube is really tall. I have heard talk of a flatter top cap, but haven't seen it yet. When we were at the ToC, some of the guys I know were running the Venge without the factory top cap to get a bit lower, which works, but doesn't look so good...


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