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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:37 am 
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Alibongo:
What did you use for the BB? I would like to go to a Rotor 3D+ crank with a Power2 max spider. The BB for that crank does not have a sleeve between the bearings and I am afraid the EPS wiring could get damaged by the cranks shaft. Not sure what to do.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 3:08 am 
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Everything I'm reading says that the new Dogma sticks with an Italian threaded BB, but what is this:

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Anyone who's ridden one care to chime in?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:15 am 
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Whats what?
All Campagnolo UT Cranks use that outboard cup...


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:19 am 
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I just don't see any splines for the BB tool on the cup, I could be missing it though. Look at the shimano one here http://www.pinarello.com/eng/dogma65_carbon_850.php if you zoom in and rotate the bike to the non-drive size diagonal, it doesnt look like there are any splines there either.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:20 am 
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that's a pressfit cup. no notches for a wrench required when threading something in. this goes hand-in-hand with what i thought i saw sometime last year- a dogma2 with SHIMANO BB30 CRANKS. but i couldve been wrong, and that's for another topic.

edit: with mgordon's link, you can see that pinarello states the "bbracket" is "Most Croxover", whatever that is, but its probably some adaptable system.

edit:edit: it appears they all are called "most croxover", although only the dogma65.1 (and dogma2) are the ones that definitely have the press-in cups.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:32 am 
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Just looked on the wrenchscience and competitive cyclist websites.... wrench science says its a pressfit, which is evident from the picture above.. compcyclist says its Italian thread.. I guess they just did a copy paste from the regular dogma on the specs....


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:36 am 
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Im not liking this whole pressing cups into a frame deal... Ive heard nothing about creaks everywhere.. it was really noted with the Campy cups on a Ti frame... maybe the carbon with Loctite is more forgiving....

I know on my EVO I have for sale, its made my 2010 SRM useless because of the pressfit30 cup lip not being able to clear the powermeter back plate....

Since Im a campy only guy, the only option is a pressfit cup and Campy SRM... can you say $$$$

Just can't justify it.. especially with how light and stiff Hollowgram cranks are..


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 4:43 am 
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@pariscarbon,
you may be in luck, as the new spindles that are coming with sisl2 cranks are a little bit (but not a lot) longer. they may have a different taper on the splines, i will find out tomorrow...


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2012 5:40 am 
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Wrenchscience actually says both:


"Features:
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Bottom Bracket: Press fit"


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"The Dogma 65.1 will carry over ... the Italian bottom bracket..."


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