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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 6:44 am 
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http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/r ... els-34307/

i like the wheels... wonder how much the 58 rim weighs.


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Interestingly the new "step hook" is on the opposite side of the old "swirl lip".

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According to one of their representative that i have met, they are not focusing on weight on the AERO version but more on the Aero effect of the wheels, so they will not be the lightest.....

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I think they look sweet!


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 22, 2012 5:58 pm 
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According to one of their representative that i have met, they are not focusing on weight on the AERO version but more on the Aero effect of the wheels, so they will not be the lightest.....


That sucks... it would be nice if someone made a light aero wheel. everything in the 60mm range is over 500g per rim.

does anyone know if these are tubeless compatible? not mentioned in the article.


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Not tubeless ready but with some stans tape or some of the american classic tape it can be rune tubeless. As well as every other carbon clincher.


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Not tubeless ready but with some stans tape or some of the american classic tape it can be rune tubeless. As well as every other carbon clincher.


thanks for the info... would that mean i would have to run sealant or just the tape? if i have to deal with sealant, i would just say no and run standard clincher.


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spytech wrote:
NWSAlpine wrote:
Not tubeless ready but with some stans tape or some of the american classic tape it can be rune tubeless. As well as every other carbon clincher.


thanks for the info... would that mean i would have to run sealant or just the tape? if i have to deal with sealant, i would just say no and run standard clincher.


Huh? The sealant you are referring to (specifically Stans Notube Sealant) has two purposes. Purpose 1 is to coat the inside of non tubeless tires and allow them to be used as tubeless tires. Purpose 2 is to seal up punctures in tubeless tires, tubulars, and I suppose inner tubes too. Purpose 1 is kind of superfulous since various companies make tubeless ready tires. You can run them tubeless without any extra sealant. The tire is made with an air proof casing to prevent any air from going through the tire casing. Just mount the tubeless ready tire without sealant on a rim/wheel that is tubeless ready. Either the rim has no spoke holes or the rim has a sealant strip to cover the spoke holes. The sealant in Purpose 1 coats the casing of the tire and prevents air from passing through the tire casing. The sealant does not and cannot seal the spoke holes in the rim. Sealant and rim strip serve two different purposes. They prevent the air from leaving the tire/wheel in two different spots. The tire casing and the spoke holes.


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spytech wrote:
NWSAlpine wrote:
Not tubeless ready but with some stans tape or some of the american classic tape it can be rune tubeless. As well as every other carbon clincher.


thanks for the info... would that mean i would have to run sealant or just the tape? if i have to deal with sealant, i would just say no and run standard clincher.


Huh? The sealant you are referring to (specifically Stans Notube Sealant) has two purposes. Purpose 1 is to coat the inside of non tubeless tires and allow them to be used as tubeless tires. Purpose 2 is to seal up punctures in tubeless tires, tubulars, and I suppose inner tubes too. Purpose 1 is kind of superfulous since various companies make tubeless ready tires. You can run them tubeless without any extra sealant. The tire is made with an air proof casing to prevent any air from going through the tire casing. Just mount the tubeless ready tire without sealant on a rim/wheel that is tubeless ready. Either the rim has no spoke holes or the rim has a sealant strip to cover the spoke holes. The sealant in Purpose 1 coats the casing of the tire and prevents air from passing through the tire casing. The sealant does not and cannot seal the spoke holes in the rim. Sealant and rim strip serve two different purposes. They prevent the air from leaving the tire/wheel in two different spots. The tire casing and the spoke holes.


understood, thanks for explanation. i asked, if i have to run sealant or just the tape (maybe i should have said sealant and tape or is tape good enough) - i know i have to run the tape anyway to cover the holes. i was curious if i could run hutch full tubeless tires with just tape, as i do not care about messing around with sealant.


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Oh nice... okay, so on one hand we have Bontrager making Aero R4 tires that have a "Aero Wing" that fills that gap between the tire and brake track... and now we got Reynolds making a "Step Hook" that has a deeper groove cut into that area to make it more "aero".

Each company says it's the fastest and most aero... who do we believe, when we have contradicting designs?

Not only that... but Reynolds have contradicted itself in designing their "fastest" wheels. Last year, we get the RZR, which are super thin, V shaped rims, and others rims with a "Swirl Lip Generator on the inside spoke area of the rim. Not we get the opposite, with really FAT rims with a groove in a totally different place.

Is this not evidence enough that all these little tricks are just for marketing a new product on the market and won't make any of us faster? It's all just to keep us wanting the newest, "fastest" parts.


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Oh nice... okay, so on one hand we have Bontrager making Aero R4 tires that have a "Aero Wing" that fills that gap between the tire and brake track... and now we got Reynolds making a "Step Hook" that has a deeper groove cut into that area to make it more "aero".

Each company says it's the fastest and most aero... who do we believe, when we have contradicting designs?

Not only that... but Reynolds have contradicted itself in designing their "fastest" wheels. Last year, we get the RZR, which are super thin, V shaped rims, and others rims with a "Swirl Lip Generator on the inside spoke area of the rim. Not we get the opposite, with really FAT rims with a groove in a totally different place.

Is this not evidence enough that all these little tricks are just for marketing a new product on the market and won't make any of us faster? It's all just to keep us wanting the newest, "fastest" parts.


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2011 wrote:
Oh nice... okay, so on one hand we have Bontrager making Aero R4 tires that have a "Aero Wing" that fills that gap between the tire and brake track... and now we got Reynolds making a "Step Hook" that has a deeper groove cut into that area to make it more "aero".

Each company says it's the fastest and most aero... who do we believe, when we have contradicting designs?

Not only that... but Reynolds have contradicted itself in designing their "fastest" wheels. Last year, we get the RZR, which are super thin, V shaped rims, and others rims with a "Swirl Lip Generator on the inside spoke area of the rim. Not we get the opposite, with really FAT rims with a groove in a totally different place.

Is this not evidence enough that all these little tricks are just for marketing a new product on the market and won't make any of us faster? It's all just to keep us wanting the newest, "fastest" parts.


Great point. Well, I guess it really comes down to wind tunnel testing. I can try to dig up some different stuff that you may be interested in. I believe Rouse Artisanales may be the place to start.

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