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Are Mavic good quality?
Yes, Mavic are the best 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Mavic were the best and their top end wheels are still good 29%  29%  [ 11 ]
Considering the competition Mavic are overpriced, shop around. 50%  50%  [ 19 ]
Mavic never were the best and remain a mediocre wheel building company 16%  16%  [ 6 ]
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Why does spoke number concern you? You can chose from 24/28, 28/28, 28/32, or 32/32. Thats pleanty of spokes, esp with the x-ray's, there very strong.

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strong?
i have already broken 3 of them...


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How much do you weigh? What was the wheel they were laced to and the spoke count? Sapmin X-Ray's are very strong spokes.

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68kgs
1x nemesis rim 32 rear
1x crono rim 32 rear
1x zipp 303 front


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if you resemble your avatar, maybe that is your problem? :)


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no that's not the problem 68kg for 1m76
maybe my legs are too 'heavy'...


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If you resemble your avatar, maybe that is your problem?


You took the words out of my mouth! :wink:

I don't think it's your weight or the spokes, but the rim. 303 rims are known to have spoke break. Are the other rims similar, carbon tubulars I mean?

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The other rims are low 12mm box-profile alu rims Crono 340g Nemesis 435g. Most pro teams use Nemesis in Paris-Roubaix, so it's one of the strongest rims.


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Spokes ONLY breake when fatigue cycled (accicdent damage aside).

Spokes can fatigue cycle when 1. They are not tight enough, or 2. The spoke holes are to loose.

Solution 1. More spoke tension, they are too loose.
Solution 2. More spoke tension, so they cant move in the hole and add DT spoke washers.

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I am also seeking a low spoke count in addition to a low weight, for the look and for the areo.

My racing location is very windy, and for the money, they may as wll lookfast.

Brian


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Comparing

Spoke count,
Weight and
Cost

The Wheel Craft Sprint DS with 16/24 at only 1370g appears to be a good purchase.

The AC 420 with 18/24 and 1420g comes second.

W/C are not popular in Aust, does anyone have experience with W/C?

Brian


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Bruiser, Wheel craft wheels are the product of one of the Aust. distributors (Dirtworks - DT, Ritchey, Hadley, Ellsworth, etc), so are Aust. only.

They are machine tensioned and hand trued (I prefer a full hand build) and have only been on the market for about 18months. They appear to be quite good and have lots of options to customise them to suit yourself (like any good hand built).

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Cheers, at the moment I intend to buy a pair.

What do other WW's consider the best quality for money at the moment?

Brian


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DT Swiss makes complete wheelsets (handbuilt) looks very nice and should be light


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Perry wrote:
DT Swiss makes complete wheelsets (handbuilt) looks very nice and should be light


DT-Swiss R 1.1

available with 28 or 32 spokes (DT-Aero-Light)
Hubs 240s
Weight (including Skewers): 1.600 Grams
Price around 650 Euros

(German TOUR Magazine 02/04)


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