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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:01 pm 
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I'm trying the Schwalbe Ultremo 25mm tires and so far so good. Latex tube.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:19 pm 
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Guys (and gals), I'm serarching a place that sells Veloflex Arenberg tubs online but not successful. Only found on Ebay ( :shock: )...

Do you have a "secret supplier" that you know of ? ...

Louis :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:47 pm 
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Louis, I'm also interested in them, and Google easily comes back with
http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/ ... -road-tire
http://www.veloflextires.com/veloflex_a ... bular2.htm
(assuming you're more after the $ prices than € or £)

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:56 pm 
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+1 on Roubaix/Arenberg

For best puncture resistance they have to dry at least 6 months.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:07 pm 
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LouisN wrote:
Guys (and gals), I'm serarching a place that sells Veloflex Arenberg tubs online but not successful. Only found on Ebay ( :shock: )...

Do you have a "secret supplier" that you know of ? ...

Louis :)


http://www.wiggle.co.uk/veloflex-arenberg-tubular-tyre/

http://www.cycle-tyres-direct.fr/boyau- ... g-858.html


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:10 pm 
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wassertreter wrote:
Louis, I'm also interested in them, and Google easily comes back with
http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/ ... -road-tire" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.veloflextires.com/veloflex_a ... bular2.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
(assuming you're more after the $ prices than € or £)


I'm after the "big tub suppliers". Pretty shure the european sellers and distributors are cheaper than the North american ones for Veloflex tubs. Even with shipping included.
The Carbon tubular is almost $30 more at BTD than in europe...that's one free tub every three :mrgreen: ...

Metanoize, Thanks.
Wiggle didn't have them a few weeks back...nice :D !!!

Louis :)


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:13 pm 
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I do like the Veloflex Roubaixs I'm riding (thanks to Lionel's recommendation) but the old 24mm version (which many stores still are distributing) measures 23.5mm on my Nemesis rims. I was hoping for something wider after riding Vittoria Open Pave CG clinchers on Hed C2 rims. Those are nominally 24mm, measure at 24.5mm on a set of Kinlin xr270 rims and at nice and are acushy 26.5mm on my Hed rims.

The newest Roubaix is nominally 25mm. Would love to know how they actually measure out in the real world. I may try a set of Vittoria Pave tubulars in 24 to see how they go -- or may even try the 27s just for grins.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:45 pm 
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LionelB wrote:
+1 on Roubaix/Arenberg

For best puncture resistance they have to dry at least 6 months.


6 months?

LouisN wrote:
Guys (and gals), I'm serarching a place that sells Veloflex Arenberg tubs online but not successful. Only found on Ebay ( :shock: )...

Do you have a "secret supplier" that you know of ? ...

Louis :)


I've been looking here

http://www.worldclasscycles.com/tubulars.htm


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:53 pm 
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MikeMiranda wrote:
6 months?

Yes, look at the actual manufacturing date printed on the tire. For handmade tubs like veloflex letting the rubber dry out at least 6 months will give a much better puncture resistance. 12 months+ is best.

They are great handmade tubs but for best overall performance a bit of planning ahead is best. I keep a supply of 5 or 6 and re-order when I get below that. This way I always install tubs that have aged correctly.

You can certainly ride brand new ones but they will wear out faster and puncture more easily.


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 Post subject: Which 25mm tubular tire?
PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:39 pm 
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LionelB wrote:
MikeMiranda wrote:
6 months?

Yes, look at the actual manufacturing date printed on the tire. For handmade tubs like veloflex letting the rubber dry out at least 6 months will give a much better puncture resistance. 12 months+ is best.

They are great handmade tubs but for best overall performance a bit of planning ahead is best. I keep a supply of 5 or 6 and re-order when I get below that. This way I always install tubs that have aged correctly.

You can certainly ride brand new ones but they will wear out faster and puncture more easily.


interesting do all tubulars follow this I just specifically hand made ones?


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:54 pm 
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MikeMiranda wrote:
interesting do all tubulars follow this I just specifically hand made ones?

handmade ones with no vulcanization.


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I'm assuming continentals aren't hand made?


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ducan wrote:
Ensure you will have enough clearance in your frame. Sounds like a wide combo.

Will a tubular tyre stretch on a wider rim like a clincher would ?


I have a 2011 specialized roubaix with 2012 red brakes


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:17 pm 
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MikeMiranda wrote:
I've been debating on buying a set of Zipp 303 firecrest and I planning on running 25mm tires for a comfy ride, I've searched for 25mm tubular tired I've come up,with these 3, anyone have a preferences to these three brands?


http://www.vittoria.com/en/product/cotton-tires/#

http://www.veloflextires.com/veloflex_roubaix_tubular2.htm

http://www.contionline.com/generator/www/de/en/continental/bicycle/themes/race/tubularroad/competition/competition_en.html (seems harder to find)



What about Tufo EliteRide 25 ?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:44 am 
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Hi,

[/quote]The Vittoria's are nice: But way to puncture prone... I prefer Conti's, because of their best overall performance (puncture resistance, rolling resistance and price).[/quote]

Leaving price out of the equation as I consider it a variable, not a constant, leaves you with a tyre with only average rolling resistance, lousy to nonexistent comfort at usual tyre pressures and a good measured (labtest) puncture resistance which in practice (read IME) is no better than say a Veloflex Carbon or Roubaix/Arenberg.

That said, where I do most of my riding a typical Vittoria Evo CX is useless as it tends to pick up all kinds of flints and digs them in until a puncture occurs. Add a questionable (at best) behaviour under wet conditions and it's off the list.

A good Vitto tubular would be a CX SC in 25mm version should it exist IMHO. Until it does Roubaix/Arenberg seems to be the obvious choice should you need a wider than 23mm tubular tyre.

Ciao. ';)

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