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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 7:47 am 
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Wanted to get some magic mastik to try out of curiosity but none of the local shops have it. When I went to Vittoria's website, I didn't find it there as well. I did find this new Mastik Pro glue that seems like a hybrid product of the magic mastik and mastik one; read this -

"Mastik Pro Mastik Pro is the latest and best development in tubular glue to date. It addresses all known challenges for gluing your tubulars. With its quick and easy application, it is possible to glue two tires in under an hour. Mastik Pro cleans easily with water, making mess on your hands and equipment a challenge of the past. It also has a much increased resistance to high temperatures, contributing strongly to much higher safety especially for long descents. The new Mastik Pro is non-flammable, so it can be carried everywhere regardless of the mode of transport. Glued tubulars are rideable in 24 hours and the packaging is especially designed to use two satchels per wheel.

I can find no other information on the net regarding this product though, not even an online retailer that stocks it. Anyone heard anything about it before?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 9:44 am 
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I see what you mean. It would appear that they may have discontinued Magic Mastik and replaced it with this new product. I have one packet of the MM that am planning to try on my next glue job. Have plenty of M1 just in case it doesn't work :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 12:37 pm 
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Their website https://www.vittoria.com/accessories/road-accessory/

Water soluble, but now needs 24 hours curing time, hence a hybrid of the 2

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2016 2:55 pm 
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tbh the only apparent difference between magic and pro seems to be the packaging (slight size increase from 12ml to 17ml) and increase to 24 hrs

aside from that, they seem to be the same - water soluble, higher temperature (see https://www.vittoria.com/accessories/ro ... ic-mastik/ )

i think magic was applied to rim only, i've not seen instructions for the pro but my guess would be they now say to apply to both rim and basetape, which would explain the increased amount per wheel and the longer drying time


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:57 am 
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After gluing a set of Conti tyres approximately two months ago using Magic Mastik, I have discovered both tyres have large areas where the the tyre and rim are no longer bonded together and the areas that are still bonded can be easily separated. The glue is supposed to be water resistant after curing, but it looks as if it has dissolved (some wet weather riding). Has anybody else experienced this problem?


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:36 am 
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i've read comments that people think water has affected the bond, also about it peeling off easily

for instance http://www.velocipedesalon.com/forum/f4 ... 40786.html

there's a thread on ww too


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:51 pm 
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Kayrehn wrote:
Wanted to get some magic mastik to try out of curiosity but none of the local shops have it. When I went to Vittoria's website, I didn't find it there as well. I did find this new Mastik Pro glue that seems like a hybrid product of the magic mastik and mastik one; read this -

"Mastik Pro Mastik Pro is the latest and best development in tubular glue to date. It addresses all known challenges for gluing your tubulars. With its quick and easy application, it is possible to glue two tires in under an hour. Mastik Pro cleans easily with water, making mess on your hands and equipment a challenge of the past. It also has a much increased resistance to high temperatures, contributing strongly to much higher safety especially for long descents. The new Mastik Pro is non-flammable, so it can be carried everywhere regardless of the mode of transport. Glued tubulars are rideable in 24 hours and the packaging is especially designed to use two satchels per wheel.

I can find no other information on the net regarding this product though, not even an online retailer that stocks it. Anyone heard anything about it before?


It seems that vittoria re-named the magic mastik to mastik pro, so you can search and buy under that name online. Although I did find mastik one on their website and I would recommend that instead. It's known that mastik one provides a great bond that provides good Crr (al morrison crr data). I would not use anything else until I see some Crr test on other glues. Of course you might value easy installation and cleanup to be more important than Crr.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:40 am 
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New here. I was looking for some experiences with the Magic Mastik/Mastik Pro (exactly the same product just different packaging).

What i have found so far over the last 15 months of using the product:

- it works absolutely great. Much easier to use than Conti glue with 3 different layers applied over a few days. I i have mounted 6 tires on my wheelset since i started using it. Really quick to mount and it's dry within 12 hours, but better to use it only after 24 hours, better safe than sorry!
- I used steel wool to remove the old glue, doesn't take much pressure and it comes of quick and easy.
- the glue doesn't work with Conti Tubulars! Conti Tubulars use a cotton bottom layer that's designed to soak up a layer of glue and then bonds with the layer on the rim. It only works with Vittoria and Bontrager Tubulars (made at Vittoria). Vittoria Tubulars have a rubber/plasic base at the bottom which bonds well with the rim via the Magic Mastic glue. I have made the mistake of glueing a Conti tire with MM and was really really pissed off to find the tires coming off with one hand from my rim when testing them for even bonding.

Apart from that, the glue holds really well, no difference to Conti glue with Conti tires on carbon rims. I put 7000km on my bike and didn't have a single failure. Rain rides, endless downhills, no issues at all. I have to admit that i destroyed a bunch of tires as the roads here are quite dirty. So, the maximum i put on a single tire was around 3000km.

Hope this helps!


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 23, 2017 9:58 am 
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I see that the Mastik Pro seems to be available from some sites. I've used the Magic Mastik with success so I've placed an order for 6 packs and will report back once I tried it.

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