HOT: Active* forum members generally gain 5% discount at starbike.com store!
Weight Weenies
* FAQ    * Search    * Trending Topics
* Login   * Register
HOME Listings Blog NEW Articles FAQ Contact About




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 16 posts ] 
Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: winter clothing
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:32 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:46 pm
Posts: 42
Location: Italy
I would like to buy some clothing for really cold weather, sub 0 Celsius.
Please can you give me some suggestions for the Jacket, the tights, the gloves and the shoe covers.

And obviously it should be in the WW style. 8) 8)

thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: winter clothing
Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:32 pm 


Top
  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 1:35 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:05 am
Posts: 295
Location: Toulouse
Try the Assos Fugu jacket. You can ride, they say, in -4oC with only one base layer underneath it. The downside is the cost: 380 euros.

http://www.assos.com/products/winter_de ... hite&id=87


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:36 pm
Posts: 4123
If you ride reasonably fast start with "851" stuff and if your legs are usually too hot the RX-LL tights. The Fugu really is a little warm unless you're going slow or when it's clearly below 0C. Sure, you can wear less baselayers, but the point of good and smart clothing is less bulk and the freedom of movement that comes with it.

BTW, also get some lobster gloves for those temps. Loose fingers don't cut it when you're out long and your sweat begins to cool you off.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 2:59 pm 
Offline
Resident Pro
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 18, 2005 9:34 am
Posts: 1782
i would also suggest the different assos models. assos is supplier of the swiss national team and we once got 851 clothes, they're superb. price is high on assos stuff, but if your ass is freezing and you're hours away from home, you'll tell yourself to spend the money on good clothes next time.
my tip for gloves are pearl izumi lobster gloves(the ones where index and middle finger are together and ring and little finger also together. they're a bit tricky for cyclocross training and mtb use, but there is also a model with every finger seperated).


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:20 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:51 am
Posts: 77
Location: Detroit and Traverse City, Michigan USA
I second the suggestion for Lobster Claws.
I have worn the Pearl Izumi but I prefer the Swix brand. Very toasty.
I think the key to staying comfortable is good wicking base layer system. Try anything by Craft.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 3:43 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2005 10:24 pm
Posts: 17
Location: Europe
Must say I haven't tried the Assos jacket before but is certainlly looks good when it's clean! I usually get the best result/comfort from multi layer setups. I tend to start of with a summer Craft sweatshirt (normal short sleeve) over this put a winter Craft sweatshirt (long sleeve and turtleneck). The next layer is a long-sleeved shirt (some times I put the arm pieces over the shirt as extra layer) and I finish it of with a tight breathing wind jacket. This way you can take off/ open the wind jacket when it gets to hot (if and when that sun comes out) or if you are climbing a mountain.

For pants I generally take a long winter pants without insert and pull a 3/4 spring pants with insert over it, I like the extra layer over my knees.

For the feet I use the Gore-Tex socks, over it a thin plastic bag to keep out the last bit of wind. Then I go into my "normal" road shoes and cover those with a neoprene shoe socks.

Don't forget good headwear as well !!!

So basically I am building on top of my spring outfit with some extra layers. I personally find that it's less obstructive then one thick layer. Don't know which solution is lighter, at least it's lighter on the wallet, more extra cash for lighter bike part... :)

The lobster gloves are a good tip I will need to try those...

perspective


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:02 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Sep 12, 2005 10:59 pm
Posts: 1106
Location: Boston, MA, USA
I was in -5 deg C (23 deg F) weather in a Craft S3 Windblock Long Sleeve Baselayer + regular Long Sleeve Jersey + Gore Wind Stop Control Jacket and sweating, I'm pretty sure I could have gotten away with just the base + jacket. The jacket is very light weight and isn't particularly thick, but holds heat very well. And of course, you won't look like the michelin man!

_________________
Rule #1. Superheroes Wear Tights


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 5:27 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:46 pm
Posts: 199
i use a brynje thermal base layer an it is amazingly good, its just finding them, they are made in norway and are super warm. and much more affordable!

i would recommend this brynje base layer with a roubaix fabric jacket (assos or simlar) on top of those i use an airblock gillet (assos) any good quality airblock glove (check the velcro wrist as some have big gaps)
with a lightweight silk under glove. then some super roubaix or air block bib tights (assos is the best!) with some light lycra overshoes with neoprene overshoe on top. all you need then are some warm socks. thats all i hve to wear in sub zero.

it sounds alot but i dont use super mega thick stuff! and as long as i open the gillet on the climbs and zipp up on the descents im fine:!:

_________________
so far...king fast
A new forum-Cycling with Power...also a Junior Training section...come check it out!

www.cyclingpower.jconserv.net


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 2:26 pm 
Offline
in the industry

Joined: Thu Jun 16, 2005 2:32 pm
Posts: 3139
quintale read your PMs! :D

_________________
http://worksrider.wordpress.com/


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:03 am 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 11, 2005 11:40 pm
Posts: 863
Location: Eire
Adidas's winter gloves are super warm> Just got a pair for Christmas and have had them out on a couple of rides in horrible conditions and they are toasty. Look good too.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:03 am 
Offline
Tubbie Guru

Joined: Tue May 03, 2005 2:20 am
Posts: 5804
Location: Belgium
Hi,

Quote:
i use a brynje thermal base layer an it is amazingly good, its just finding them, they are made in norway and are super warm. and much more affordable!


Isn't Brynje based around Merino wool?

Personally nothing fancy here just a pile of Merino based base layers bought about a year ago at the local Lidl outlet during sales.

It included seamless underwear, shirts, long johns, socks, lower back warmer, etc.
Everything you'd possibly need except for waterproof overshoes and all that for a fraction of the price of what you'd pay at a specialised shop.

Naturally you need more than that alone but as a base layer it's hard to beat for the money.

Haven't felt cold on the bike since. :wink:

Ciao, 8)

_________________
Being a snob is an expensive hobby.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2006 2:56 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2004 12:46 pm
Posts: 42
Location: Italy
thanks a lot for all your answers.
I suppose that I will go for a good winter jacket and a baselayer from Craft or Brynje.
It seems a good alternative to Assos clothes, so with the remaining cash I hope to buy the new ORB pedals. :D

thanks


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:16 pm 
Offline

Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 5:09 pm
Posts: 201
Location: Sweden
quintale wrote:
thanks a lot for all your answers.
I suppose that I will go for a good winter jacket and a baselayer from Craft or Brynje.


I have used different brands of wicking underwear since the early 80's. One of the first I bought was a Craft http://www.craft.se (naturally since it is Swedish!), I never really liked it.

After that I got a Helly Hansen Lifa, http://www.hellyhansen.com , that I really liked, I still have it and use it. I guess it is close to 20 years old now!
In 1986 I was persuaded(sp?) by a friend to buy the then new, and expensive, Norvegian Brynje Super-Thermo
Image
http://www.brynje.no
Or more specific:
http://www.brynje.no/public/index.php?c ... uct_grp1=6

It is a polypropylene fishnet fabric and it works better then ANY other baselayer that I have used up to last summer, see more below (and that includes Patagonia Capilene and Merino wool-shirts).
Today I still have my original long sleeve shirt (10200300) from 1986,
but I also have a zip shirt (10201200), wind fronted shorts (10200700), T-shirt (10200200) and the hat (10256001).

I use them all alot and they work VERY well! Since they are mesh they don't 'stink' as badly as other fabrics. And you can wash them warm (60 centigrades) which I think also helps.
I have used them for running, cycling, x-country skiing and more activities that I don't remember now and in temperatures from 25 centigrades above to 25 centigrades below freezing.

Brynje can be hard to find, but I would look at a x-country ski-speciality shop.
In the US you can buy Brynje Online at:
http://www.reliableracing.com

Another Norwegian manufacturer of fishnet polypro baselayers is Aclima:
http://www.aclima.no

Or more specific Aclima Super Net
http://www.aclima.no/emain.php?pgid=3

I have had an Aclima T-shirt now for a year and a half and because of its elastic sidepanels it fits me much better then my Brynje T-shirt.
Image

I don't know were you can buy Aclima outside of Sweden, but Google is your friend :wink:

If I should recommend a single brand it must be Aclima before Brynje, but they are both superior to any other baselayer that I have used.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:24 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Mar 19, 2004 1:36 pm
Posts: 4123
My baselayers don't stink....maybe you should try Craft again :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
Posted: Sun Jan 08, 2006 1:24 am 


Top
  
 
 Post subject: Re: winter clothing
PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2015 7:01 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Mar 01, 2012 2:10 am
Posts: 269
*bump*

I've been searching for a long sleeve lightweight baselayer to wear under a rainjacket in cool conditions. Merino or Polypropylene is OK for really cold days, but what if its in that awful range of about 12 degrees, which is too hot for a proper baselayer but too cold to just get wet?

Well I stumbled into a hiking shop yesterday and bought a Lowe Alpine Dryflo 120 top on an impulse buy. I rode home in it last night and it seemed to perform better than polypropylene.

But whilst googling I think I've finally found the answer in the Brynje super thermo zip mesh polo

Road cycling UK gave it a good review here

I always found that a short sleeve layer under a long sleeve rainjacket never works because the large amount of liquid sweat on your arms can never evaporate through your shell.

HakanC hasn't posted in about two years so I probably can't ask him, but has anyone else tried out the Brynje latyer (or the Aclima?). The reviews suggest that it can 'vent' heat a lot better than a solid layer, which might help in cool, rainy condition.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 16 posts ] 
Go to page 1, 2  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: -Robin-, Bing [Bot], Exabot [Bot], Google [Bot], KarlC, micky, rmerka, speeddemon, thewallace, Tom-s and 47 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

   Similar Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. Castelli Clothing Line Explained

in Road

digitalnorbs

9

1722

Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:32 pm

CP View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Winter wonder

in Road

Monkeyboy3333

4

745

Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:36 pm

Monkeyboy3333 View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. New winter bike saddle

in Road

Raineman

1

303

Mon Dec 01, 2014 9:33 am

bikewithnoname View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Best road tyres for wet and cold weather/winter

in Road

Tillquist

11

1187

Wed Oct 01, 2014 9:13 pm

djwalker View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Build a winter bike for snow and ice need advice!

[ Go to page: 1, 2 ]

in Road

brettmess24

28

1509

Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:44 pm

showdown View the latest post


It is currently Sat May 23, 2015 1:31 pm

All times are UTC + 1 hour




Advertising   –  FAQ   –  Contact   –  Convert   –  About

© Weight Weenies 2000-2013
hosted by starbike.com


How to get rid of these ads? Just register!


Powered by phpBB