Weight Weenies

pastronef wrote:so after the cobble bike, now the aero bike.
anyone knows the fate of the poor old Impec?

There are a few out there. One of the shops in town displayed them in March and were actually selling them.

maxxevv wrote:It seems to be designed for both mechanical as well as electronic shifting in mind. There clearly is a tab to cover the entrance for cable routing just above the fork interface here:

"large pic"

I think you'll find thats actually a frame bumper for the fork

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I really hope:
1) There will be an analogue/non-electronic version of the frame available.
2) The weight will be at least reasonable for WW standards. (900g target for 56 w/o brake pads & cables)

...the Scott Foil is another "aero-ish" frame that his the 900g/56 target fairly well, why can't BMC do the same?

" 2) The weight will be at least reasonable for WW standards. (900g target for 56 w/o brake pads & cables)

...the Scott Foil is another "aero-ish" frame that his the 900g/56 target fairly well, why can't BMC do the same? "

Because BMC operatus modi has never been crazy lightweight. They make "light" bikes, but nothing like others in the industry. They have always been about making the best overall bike (stiffness, comfort, weight, handling, sprinting...etc.).

So therefore 900g is a reasonable hope for BMC, no?

Since "light" is now hovering in the 700g mark. Neil Pryde Bura, Storck, Cervelo, others that aim for light are hitting that. 900g is the new "decent"

The BMC Team Maching SLR01 (their "lightweight frame" hit 920g in a 53cm. I can see this frame hitting under 1000g, but I don't think you will see hit 900g even.

prendrefeu wrote:So therefore 900g is a reasonable hope for BMC, no?

Since "light" is now hovering in the 700g mark. Neil Pryde Bura, Storck, Cervelo, others that aim for light are hitting that. 900g is the new "decent"

Of those frames only 1 is being ridden in the pro tour and only by marquee riders. It also costs 2-3x what a BMC does. I'm guessing BMC will sell more bikes with slightly higher weight and lower offering price thus making a higher profit.

Seriously though you have to look at who actually buys most aero bikes. Most Venge owners aren't the 1% on here that care about weight or actually compare aero tests. Its people that walk in, want a new bike, have a lot of cash, and pick the first thing that looks nice and comports with their idea of what's important that day. The rest is made up post-hoc.

The name Off the frame is: TMR01

Scott seems to be willing to tolerate a lot of frame failures, as does Cervelo. Each of these companies has been on the cutting edge of light. Really for most applications throwing an extra 100 grams at reliability makes enormous sense.

I cringe every time I see a Cannondale EVO covered in opaque white & light green paint, as I did today. But obviously I'm atypical. Most people really don't care about 100 grams.

"I cringe every time I see a Cannondale EVO covered in opaque white & light green paint, as I did today. But obviously I'm atypical. Most people really don't care about 100 grams."

I know you know this, but those of us who are WW are a special and unique bunch. While we might care about the last 5-10g, the average person would laugh at a 100g difference. Go to any of the other major cycling forums and they will laugh and tell you to take a crap before the ride and how that is much cheaper. While I agree that if I got the Evo I would want the Ultimate frame version, some people care about the appearance of their bike more than the weight. Hence why some might want the Team version of the frame. To each his own.

The pics of the bike is Hincapie's ride. And he rides I guessing a 58 cm? Pretty minimal amount of post showing for a build that tall. A 51 cm must look a bit strange. Think it would look much better with a sloping top tube. I have been told by a dealer that they will be hitting shops by the 2nd week of July and have a big price tag.

Also.....I hope the brakes are better than the ones on the TM01....those things are horrible.

^ Any idea how big the "big price tag" is?

theloper wrote:Also.....I hope the brakes are better than the ones on the TM01....those things are horrible.

Horrible to work on or horrible function? One of my athletes is considering one and I'm leery of putting her on a bike where I don't know if the brakes will work.

I think they convinced the UCI that the whole thing is part of the front brake.
It look very similar to Speed Concept 9 brake.

nigel379 wrote:You can see in a few pics that it can't be BB30 bc it is using a Shimano crank w/o an adapter. Disappointing.

BMC recently seem to be doing a bunch of 'team' frames which have been BB86 regardless of what the production version is. The team is on Shimano so when you can have them made to suit, why use an adaptor? I wouldn't be surprised if the production version is PF30.

53x12 wrote:The BMC Team Maching SLR01 (their "lightweight frame" hit 920g in a 53cm. I can see this frame hitting under 1000g, but I don't think you will see hit 900g even.

I don't think it's that far fetched, their new 29er HT weighs under 1000 grams. I guess part of the question is what do you call frame weight now with more and more things being integrated?

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