I have been using a Brooks Swift leather saddle on my bike for quite a while now, but I still can't say it is really comfortable for me. The reason for this I think is because the centre section of the saddle is too narrow for me.

Since the Swift is the only saddle shape from Brooks I like, I though of maybe getting a Gilles Berthoud saddle instead. Does anybody know from experience if any of the Gilles Berthoud saddles have a slightly wider centre section?

P.S. my favourite saddle is Fizik Arione

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what about the B17 narrow?

the Arione is my go to saddle too for the high speed low drag stuff, but I am really wnjoying the b17 narrow on my singlespeed.

Selle San Marco Regale is available in leather as well
http://www.sellesanmarco.it/it/Collezio ... mance.html
Haven't tried it but it's said to be among the wider shapes. (Want to try it for my long distance / randonneur bike)

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I tried one at NAHBS, really liked it and its on my short list for my new bike.....

Comparing a Swift to an Aravis, measuring both at 170mm from the nose, they are very close (within 1cm). If you have a specific measurement point in mind, I can give you more exact figures. As both are leather and there is some flare at the skirt at that area, it is difficult to get an exact comparison.

I know the shaped is very similar to that of the Gilles Berthoud saddle, but I am hoping the centre section of the GB saddle stays flat longer on the sides than that of the Swift.

I was able to get a great deal on a GB Galibier this weekend, so I decided to go ahead and give it a shot. Let's hope it will be better compared to my Swift.

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I've had good luck with my Aravis. Had to reshape the Swift, which so far is holding. No problems at all with the Aravis.