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bones wrote:

ultimobici wrote:

bones wrote:

btompkins0112 wrote:

bones wrote:I refuse to buy Rapha shoes. They are environmentally irresponsible. The slaughter of wild yaks just for this high dollar shoe is reckless.

Isn't yak like deer in that the plural and singular variation of the word is the same?

Also, let's not have the discussion again, please. They aren't wild yak if they live on a farm.......

The problem is that you cannot confirm, and neither can Rapha, that their leathers do not come from Wild Yaks. So no. I am not going to buy these overpriced shoes so that I can proudly state to my friends that the leather comes from an endangered animal species.

They use leather supplied by Ecco. Having trawled their site I suspect that they are unlikely to be using Wild Yak to produce the product they supply to Rapha/Giro. The reason? Besides the damaging publicity t would garner for a company like Ecco, they also can't control the quality of the hide.

So, do us all a favour and sling your sanctimoniously misinformed hook.

Your hectoring attitude is having precisely the opposite effect to that which I suspect you intend.

Any one suggest a holiday company that organises Wild Yak hunting?


No. Ecco buys the Yak leathers, but they then sell it to Rapha. And Rapha does not know the true supply lines of the Ecco leathers and I imagine that neither does Ecco. So no, I am not going to believe that what Rapha or Ecco does is environmentally friendly regardless of the Ecco marketing.

Even utilizing farm-raised Yaks, which Rapha cannot confirm, it is extremely unethical to slaughter these animals when their brethren, the Wild Yak species, are endangered. Shame on you for supporting this cruel, senseless destruction of this animal for a pair of $400 cycling shoes.

bones wrote:I am not going to buy these overpriced shoes so that I can proudly state to my friends that the leather comes from an endangered animal species.

bones wrote:I refuse to buy Rapha shoes. They are environmentally irresponsible. The slaughter of wild yaks just for this high dollar shoe is reckless.

Lou3000 wrote:

bones wrote:I refuse to buy Rapha shoes. They are environmentally irresponsible. The slaughter of wild yaks just for this high dollar shoe is reckless.

What if I want these shoes BECAUSE they come from an endangered species?

Seriously, if we can ignore the potential ethical violations that Bones alleges, I think they are gorgeous. I would gladly ditch my white Giros for a pair of the black Raphas.

But wait, I forgot its cool to hate on Rapha right now. For a board that matches carbon weaves on components, when did style become passe?

eric wrote:The Rapha pre-packaged lifestyle clashes with my existing one.

incognitus wrote:Dare to explain how this is any more (or less) a lifestyle product than the random other overpriced cycling shoe? Just curious.

eurperg wrote:Meh. I think Sidis look better in general, come in different widths and also their brand is stronger. (...)