Hello everyone,

I owned a time RXRS ulteam bike with campie Record and Bora Ultra2, the frame is on size S (53). My height is 177cm and 73kgs in weight. I have a short leg for my height and long back (body). I am influenced by some of my colleagues who owned the dogma 2 as they say it is the best bike they have ridden.

Just simple answer, which one do you think is better between the 2?

If I had a dime for every time I've heard someone say "This is this best bike I've ever ridden" when it comes to something fairly expensive, I would be able to pay for several of those "best bike I've ever ridden" just for shits & giggles.

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Exp001

The Dogma is over rated and over priced! ......and heavy! Nuff said.

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"black on black, is a crime"

Time bikes are also overpriced and heavy, so this is going to be a tough choice.

Oh, i forgot to mentioned.

I live in Indonesia and the price of some stuffs in indonesia is different to other country. surprisingly, the time frame that i bought (with the handle bar and stem or you may call it module+) cost me $3900. While dogma 2 (only frame) will cost $$5000, so the price is so different between this two.

In my country the price of the wheelset is also quite funny. Bora ultra2 will cost $2450 and zipp 404 firecrest cost $2250. hehehe

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" Fly too low "

If that's the case, and many of your friends are riding the Dogma, then you should ride the Time.
It will give you something to talk about.

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Exp001

Neither...

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Thing 1 & Thing 2 & Thing 3

If that's the case, and many of your friends are riding the Dogma, then you should ride the Time.
It will give you something to talk about.


Hahahahaha, no i'm not into the talking thing, let them do the talking, i am seriously into cycling, hahahaha

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" Fly too low "

for the TIME over the PINARELLO :



Foto: cyclingnews.com, Tour de Romandy, stage 2

Time.

Now close this thread...

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"Light bike? Its still about the engine!".

Time bikes are handmade in France.

Dogma is made in Taiwan in the same factories where cheap carbon frames are made.

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A light bike does replace good fitness.

+1 for Time, if you dont want to look behind door number three

Personly I dont understand the popularity of heavy, expensive, italian bikes. Why?

Those curvy Pinarello forks and seatstays are all marketing hype. I can't believe Pinarello tries to pass it off like those squiggly things are stiffer and more shock-absorbent at the same time. Plus, its ugly.

20:6 so far in favor of the time.
The Time option also received the most comments so far.

Can we just call it a day/thread now? and move on to the next "what wheels should I buy" or "what bike should I buy" thread?

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Exp001

The construction of the Pinarello bikes are not the issue. In fact, they are very well made. It's the grotesqueness and their dubious marketing claims that are the issue.