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SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:18 pm
by itsacarr
Figured I would get the conversation started to see if anyone has seen the new Quarqs yet or heard much about them?

More or less wondering if they have begun to come a bit more in line with the reliability of yee ol' SRM.

I know a couple are out in the wild but I have yet to see any turn up on teams across the pond or what have you.

Re: SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:00 pm
by boots2000
Too bad it is a Quarq and not a SRAM Red SRM.
Having to use a Garmin is a big downgrade IMO.

Re: SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:00 pm
by Weenie

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Re: SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:04 pm
by itsacarr
Unfortunately - I agree with you there ... I think the crank from what I am told is a nice step up but that head unit is still errrr ... not quite the refined unit the pc7 is.

Re: SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:23 pm
by Ypsylon
The Quarqs work with a PC7 if you order them with the "German Achievement Mode" turned on.

I'm still waiting for the Qalvin Android App, actually, I should go check again.

The doubts I have about the crank are all more SRAM related, than Quarq. AFAIK only Red chainrings will fit, the spacing is different, there's no word about what sizes they'll have, stuff like that. And it's not like I don't think SRAM make a nice crank, but buying a pm without ever having seen the crank it's based on would make me a little nervous, nevertheless.

Re: SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:23 pm
by shoopdawoop
You can use a PC-7 with a quarq I think.

Re: SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:34 pm
by itsacarr
I like it - german achievement mode lol ...

Yes the two work just fine together though. But that's not the point ;)

Agreed with the SRAM issues. They seem to have err production issues at times and are working pretty hard to get things straightened out. Technically the Red Quarq was due out ... yesterday ... if you were to believe the mumbled release dates. With later this month and next slated for the variations of the crank sizes rolling out.

I am very curious though more or less about reliability and accuracy. The crank itself does seem to be a nice improvement albeit one that may not allow for third party chainrings etc. but that's not confirmed that I know of.

Re: SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:36 pm
by itsacarr
I take that back .... it seems aftermarket chainrings will work fine with it. They just have one bolt that goes directly into the crank arm so they only have to use 4 spider arms instead of 5.

Re: SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:42 pm
by mrfish
Yes, so the pin for the crank arm will be in the wrong place unless you use Campag record rings.

I'd wait until you see the review on DC Rainmaker - pending in a couple of weeks. By then it might be 'summer' and Garmin might have their wonder-pedal out. Until then I'm seriously contemplating anti-weenie Dura Ace SPDs and a Power2max, or I would if I heard anything positive about temperature sensitivity. And I need a new car, so no SRM for me.

Re: SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:42 pm
by Weenie

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Re: SRM vs 2013 Sram "red" Quarq

Posted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:18 am
by Ypsylon
And we don't know how the different chainrings would work with the Quarq again. They have this "Calfree" feature or whatever it's called where you can change around chainrings without needing to recalibrate, but since officially only Red chainrings work, I don't know what's gonna happen with aftermarket chainrings. Supposedly the changes were in the body of the pm, but who knows if they didn't optimize it towards some spec of the Red chainrings.

I'm not assuming it doesn't work well, but before I commit to something expensive, I want to know for sure.