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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:17 pm 
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as the title says could someone tell me difference between these two frames i have the 2007 r3 and considering the team frame.what is the weight difference between the two if any i know later r3 got heavier is this still the case?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:45 pm 
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karl234 wrote:
as the title says could someone tell me difference between these two frames i have the 2007 r3 and considering the team frame.what is the weight difference between the two if any i know later r3 got heavier is this still the case?
cheers


This has been discussed extensively, please use the search function


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:04 pm 
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Except the colour (and the associated weight penalty for white) - none.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 11:05 pm 
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jdp211 wrote:
karl234 wrote:
as the title says could someone tell me difference between these two frames i have the 2007 r3 and considering the team frame.what is the weight difference between the two if any i know later r3 got heavier is this still the case?
cheers


This has been discussed extensively, please use the search function


Could You please post a link of search result? I tried several times and have not found any topic regarding this issue. Thanx.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:21 am 
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luckypuncheur wrote:
Except the colour (and the associated weight penalty for white) - none.


Fork and paint are only differences between the base model and Team model. Team has FK30SL fork which is lighter and black paintwork is lighter than white.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:56 am 
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Today I'll post exact weight of R3 team in 56 size.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 12:28 pm 
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ill look forward to that as its a 56 im looking at getting .


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 3:47 pm 
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Fork uncut 315g, frame without headset but with hanger, cages bolts and seatpost collar 996g. 2012 R3 team 56 size. Weighted with 2 different scales, the difference was +- 5g (one was kitchen scale and one "fish" scale). I thought it'll be much lighter honestly.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:38 pm 
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Thanks for the info apLe, weight is what I expected it to be.
Did you weigh fork with the insert? My regular R3 FK30 fork is 364g cut to length + glued insert, so there's about 60-70g weight difference when cut to length.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:09 pm 
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thats 100g heavier than my 2006 frame in a 56 is there a reason why the weight has gone up? i was hoping for a lighter upgrade to the team frame.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 5:15 pm 
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No, it's a weight of bare fork because I don't use Cervelo's insert. Of course fork is SL version. I'll weight cut fork when I visit my LBS again as I'm waiting for the proper bottom bracket (guys from Cervelo had sent me wrong one:/).

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:01 pm 
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karl234 wrote:
thats 100g heavier than my 2006 frame in a 56 is there a reason why the weight has gone up? i was hoping for a lighter upgrade to the team frame.

I would say the taller headtube and asymmetric beefed up BBright area is why the weight has gone up vs the pre 2011 models. Also the newer models don't seem crack around the BB area any more.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 3:35 am 
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you want the new model and a weight loss, then you need to get the r5vwd.


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:56 am 
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karl234 wrote:
thats 100g heavier than my 2006 frame in a 56 is there a reason why the weight has gone up? i was hoping for a lighter upgrade to the team frame.


Imho, the 2006-2007 models were awesome. The 2008 models gained weight (white paint) and apparently had some cracking issues. Haven't ridden the new generation of R3s, but I'm perfectly happy with my 2007 R3 (870g). Rides awesome and is more than enough bike for me.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2012 9:42 am 
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yeh i love my 06r3 very much also im replacing my trek 6.9ssl with a r3 i was going to use the team frame as a project light bike and my old r3 frame as my main ride.now im thinking of leaving my r3 as is and picking a earlier model r3 frame to put my trek components on seen some good deals on 09 and 2010 frames.


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