AX Morpheus Crankset
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Don't these awesome cranks deserve their own thread?!
As some of you may know, I'm not impartial about cranksets. The carbon arm/axle and arm/spider construction are impressive feats of engineering. Well done on implementing pedal inserts similar to Stronglight ALS system for the variable arm length. Especially the deflection values strike me as rather impressive!
One small remark: It seems the Q-factor of the AX Morpheus is as unfavorable as the THM as well as the M5 cranks. >150mm isn't low profile enough in my view.
As some of you may know, I'm not impartial about cranksets. The carbon arm/axle and arm/spider construction are impressive feats of engineering. Well done on implementing pedal inserts similar to Stronglight ALS system for the variable arm length. Especially the deflection values strike me as rather impressive!
One small remark: It seems the Q-factor of the AX Morpheus is as unfavorable as the THM as well as the M5 cranks. >150mm isn't low profile enough in my view.
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mythical,
Per AX web site, "Oversize 30 mm hollow aluminium spindle with proprietary multi-tooth profile:
the spindle easily withstands powers of 500 Nm as being put out by good sports cars". You wrote "carbon arm/axle ... construction" - are you referring to someting other than the hollow aluminum spindle, or noting the interface of the carbon arms to the alu spindle?
Per AX web site, "Oversize 30 mm hollow aluminium spindle with proprietary multi-tooth profile:
the spindle easily withstands powers of 500 Nm as being put out by good sports cars". You wrote "carbon arm/axle ... construction" - are you referring to someting other than the hollow aluminum spindle, or noting the interface of the carbon arms to the alu spindle?
HammerTime2, I referred to a carbon arm with an axle, deliberately omitting the specified material of the axle in my description, while I'm under the assumption that this has become common knowledge to the visitors of the AX website link.
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That's a very solid price, as well -- I was expected twice as high for an AX. Very, very cool.
WRT the stance measurement: curious why what would be a very small Q-factor for a mountain bike crank is considered way too large on the road. I think I could move my cleats 2.5 mm each to compensate.
WRT the stance measurement: curious why what would be a very small Q-factor for a mountain bike crank is considered way too large on the road. I think I could move my cleats 2.5 mm each to compensate.
It would have been great if they made the MTB ones in 120/80 bcd to support the SRAM XX chain rings but there are of course many other options that will still fit.
Regarding the road Q-Factor, it's not always an option to move your cleats in if you already have them as close as possible. Even though this is the case with me I have me cleats / pedals in that position because they feel the most stable I don't think having my feet 5 mm further apart would bother me too much. Especially since the weight saving is so large! However with the UCI limit where it is I cannot afford to loose that much weight and I'd rather keep my SRM's.
Great looking bits of kit though
Regarding the road Q-Factor, it's not always an option to move your cleats in if you already have them as close as possible. Even though this is the case with me I have me cleats / pedals in that position because they feel the most stable I don't think having my feet 5 mm further apart would bother me too much. Especially since the weight saving is so large! However with the UCI limit where it is I cannot afford to loose that much weight and I'd rather keep my SRM's.
Great looking bits of kit though
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Besides being uber sexy- the features and benefits are well thought out and executed with a solid design.
Its at a competitive price too. The Morpheus saves roughly 26 grams from the previous WW standard for years- the Clavicula.
Its at a competitive price too. The Morpheus saves roughly 26 grams from the previous WW standard for years- the Clavicula.
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Does anyone know when we can expect to see these? Nils told me in an email that the BB30 version would come out with the standard one...just don't know when that'll be.
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You can buy them in some German shops. Here for example:
http://www.jedi-sports.de/index.php/cat ... -Road.html
but there is note "shipping on demand" so it does not look like they have it on stock.
http://www.jedi-sports.de/index.php/cat ... -Road.html
but there is note "shipping on demand" so it does not look like they have it on stock.
My Wilier Zero7: http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=116053
And Ridley X-Fire Disc http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=124026&p=1056055#p1056055
And Ridley X-Fire Disc http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=124026&p=1056055#p1056055
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Sounds like a pre-order
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Anybody??? Realease Date or release estimate date????
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I'm really looking forward to a review on these cranks. I'm not sure if it's worth waiting for them or not. I'm not in a huge rush to buy a new crank. I'm hoping these are as good as the hype.
Also maybe Nils can answer this...will the bb30 Morpheus be a "true" bb30 crank or will it use a sleave like THM? It's probably very similar to the THMs design. That being said does it minimize the purpose of the bb30 design not to use a 'true' bb30 crank?
Also maybe Nils can answer this...will the bb30 Morpheus be a "true" bb30 crank or will it use a sleave like THM? It's probably very similar to the THMs design. That being said does it minimize the purpose of the bb30 design not to use a 'true' bb30 crank?
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