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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 8:53 pm 
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Anyone know about this set of wheels. Anyone ride them and can share some information. I know they weight 1740 gram and Mavic improved the hub and the wind flow of the carbon flange. Happy to get more info.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:18 pm 
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They are too heavy... you wont like them.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:33 pm 
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Are they heavier than the older model 2011 or 2010
Did you ride them?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:49 am 
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I think there haven't been any changes to these wheels in the last few years. I have a pair of the 2010 model and really like them, both from a performance and durability standpoint (the front hub gets loose periodically, but the preload is easily adjusted). They weighed 1,780g on my scale (without rim strips).

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 12:41 pm 
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lee16 wrote:
They are too heavy... you wont like them.

I 've also tried them and found them only suitable for flatter rides with constant tempo.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 1:38 pm 
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kgt wrote:
lee16 wrote:
They are too heavy... you wont like them.

I 've also tried them and found them only suitable for flatter rides with constant tempo.

what would you recommend to go for if we are looking for not just a dam flat route (but like sportives and some climbs) in the same range of prices as the carbon SL?


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:04 pm 
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I bought a set of 2010's a couple years ago and they are my single favorite set of wheels I've ever used. I'm 190 pounds so I'm not a lightweight, but I use them for crits, road races, TT's and just about everything else. They are relatively cheap, stiff, and very fast.

I'm sure a pair of 404's would be better, but I've never worried about crashing my Carbones because I have MP3 coverage for them. People constantly tell me they are too heavy, but they are an outstanding wheel. Most of the people who say that have never used them. I haven't had a single problem with them in 2 years.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:38 pm 
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swalburn wrote:
I bought a set of 2010's a couple years ago and they are my single favorite set of wheels I've ever used. I'm 190 pounds so I'm not a lightweight, but I use them for crits, road races, TT's and just about everything else. They are relatively cheap, stiff, and very fast.

I'm sure a pair of 404's would be better, but I've never worried about crashing my Carbones because I have MP3 coverage for them. People constantly tell me they are too heavy, but they are an outstanding wheel. Most of the people who say that have never used them. I haven't had a single problem with them in 2 years.

thank you for that. I have a tubular 404 which ride amazingly and it's of course light for climbs and also aero. I wanted as well to have another clincher. I thought to get another full carbon clincher like Reynolds or Corima 2nd end but eventually I'm thinking of getting the 2012 cosmic SL. I am 174lb and 6feet. I think I'm going to try them after all. I just got little concern of how would Ill climb 7-10 percent gradient with the Cosmic SL


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 3:09 pm 
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They will climb just fine, limited only by the strength of the rider.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:04 am 
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fabiancanchelara wrote:
swalburn wrote:
I bought a set of 2010's a couple years ago and they are my single favorite set of wheels I've ever used. I'm 190 pounds so I'm not a lightweight, but I use them for crits, road races, TT's and just about everything else. They are relatively cheap, stiff, and very fast.

I'm sure a pair of 404's would be better, but I've never worried about crashing my Carbones because I have MP3 coverage for them. People constantly tell me they are too heavy, but they are an outstanding wheel. Most of the people who say that have never used them. I haven't had a single problem with them in 2 years.

thank you for that. I have a tubular 404 which ride amazingly and it's of course light for climbs and also aero. I wanted as well to have another clincher. I thought to get another full carbon clincher like Reynolds or Corima 2nd end but eventually I'm thinking of getting the 2012 cosmic SL. I am 174lb and 6feet. I think I'm going to try them after all. I just got little concern of how would Ill climb 7-10 percent gradient with the Cosmic SL


I had the 2010 SL's and have the 2012 SLR's now. They are bullet proof as far as reliability goes. As for climbing, I've taken them up grades well over 15% and yeah, the only thing holding them back is me. They are a solid 200 grams heavier than my EC90's, but the lack of flex and better braking more than makes up for it.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:21 am 
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fabiancanchelara wrote:
kgt wrote:
lee16 wrote:
They are too heavy... you wont like them.

I 've also tried them and found them only suitable for flatter rides with constant tempo.

what would you recommend to go for if we are looking for not just a dam flat route (but like sportives and some climbs) in the same range of prices as the carbon SL?


Campagnolo Bullet 50 would be another option. In standard configuration the price is about the same as the price of Mavics, so is the weight. The Ultra version, however, is lighter, but also more expensive.


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kervelo wrote:
fabiancanchelara wrote:
kgt wrote:
lee16 wrote:
They are too heavy... you wont like them.

I 've also tried them and found them only suitable for flatter rides with constant tempo.

what would you recommend to go for if we are looking for not just a dam flat route (but like sportives and some climbs) in the same range of prices as the carbon SL?


Campagnolo Bullet 50 would be another option. In standard configuration the price is about the same as the price of Mavics, so is the weight. The Ultra version, however, is lighter, but also more expensive.

with Shimano freehub...?


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:08 pm 
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fabiancanchelara wrote:
kervelo wrote:
Campagnolo Bullet 50 would be another option. In standard configuration the price is about the same as the price of Mavics, so is the weight. The Ultra version, however, is lighter, but also more expensive.

with Shimano freehub...?

Yes, there's a Shimano / Sram freehub option.
Alternatively, Fulcrum Red Wind is the equivalent of the the standard Bullet and the Red Wind XLR is the equivalent of the Bullet Ultra.
Again available with Shimano / Sram freehubs.


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Thanks 5 8 5 that was very helpfull!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:58 pm 
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I have 3 sets of these. 2 tubies and a clincher set. Love them, favorite all around wheel. They no longer make the tubies. If I bought some new ones I'd opt for the SLE's over the SL's. If your getting these before May 15th the extra MP3 coverage is a $1 :shock:

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