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 Post subject: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:44 am 
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Hi all:

This is my first post to this web site. I have been visiting for some time now.

I am currently riding a Cervelo 08 SLC. I am a racer and spend quite a bit of time riding. I seem to always need or want a second bike. My original intention was to buy a S3 and set it up like my SLC. Although with the new R5 coming out Maybe it would be nice to get that model and have two totaly different bikes to choose from. I like the idea of the R5 but I have this areo thing burned into my head. That nothing is faster or better than an areo bike.

I plan on ordring the bike this month and my dealer sells Cervelo and Trek.

Any thoughts ?

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 Post subject: Cervelo R5 or S3
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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:30 am 
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If you will keep the SLC built up, I say go for the R5 as it represents a different weapon to choose from in your quiver. Both are great bikes, but the S3 will be more similar to your SLC. Sure there are some minor changes, but not sure if it would worth it if you will be keeping the SLC. If you can afford the R5, go for it. Also, the new R3 has some cool features which might represent a good value as well. I personally would ditch the idea of the S3 if I was keeping an SLC. If you are selling the SLC, it makes it a bit harder to decide.


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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 2:35 am 
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For bragging rights and having a super light and slick looking machine I'd go R5. I'm personally looking at pricing out the R5 frame for myself for 2011 and it's got me licking my lips at the astounding weight and the rigidity. The S3 is also on my list but for the overall performance that I've been hearing about the R5, it's definitely at the top. I've already ruled out the Look 695 and the Time RXsomething. Time was just ridiculously expensive for outdated technology*Not to say that by any means it was a bad frame, just like something newer*. The Look frameset was just plain bulky to feel and the integrated seatmast with elastomers didn't jive with me at all.


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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:01 am 
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I agree with 53X12
If you are going to keep the SLC, go for the R5 with your eyes closed.....
Two different bikes for different purposes..
I'll be ready for just about any kind of race......


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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:47 am 
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Thank you for your response so quickly. I do feel the same when I think logically. I do plan on keeping the SLC I like the bike very much. It does have a bit of a harsh ride and I would like to smooth it out a bit. I think the R5 will do that for me as well as being super light. I hope I can get over the areo thing and just enjoy the different bikes for there own merits. My dealer will be going to the Vegas bike show to get info on both bikes for me. I hope to order this week at the show if possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 3:55 am 
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Any reason you are just looking at Cervelo? That isn't a bad thing but there are many other nice bikes too. I also say get the R5 if you are keeping the SLC.


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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:13 am 
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superbikemike wrote:
Hi all:

This is my first post to this web site. I have been visiting for some time now.

I am currently riding a Cervelo 08 SLC. I am a racer and spend quite a bit of time riding. I seem to always need or want a second bike. My original intention was to buy a S3 and set it up like my SLC. Although with the new R5 coming out Maybe it would be nice to get that model and have two totaly different bikes to choose from. I like the idea of the R5 but I have this areo thing burned into my head. That nothing is faster or better than an areo bike.

I plan on ordring the bike this month and my dealer sells Cervelo and Trek.

Any thoughts ?

Thanks

Mike



You have to keep in mind that the geometry on 2011 R series is quite a bit different from before (and the 2011 S series)

Stack has gone up by quite a bit, whilst reach has gone down by a little

You can check this at the Tech Presentation page at Cervelo's website


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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:39 pm 
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The reason I am looking at cervelo bikes is my dealer only sells Cervelo and Trek. I currently have a SLC and a P3 I thought I will stay with the brand. I could get a Trek they seem nice also. Would this forum recomend a Trek over a R5 ?

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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 1:54 pm 
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superbikemike wrote:
The reason I am looking at cervelo bikes is my dealer only sells Cervelo and Trek. I currently have a SLC and a P3 I thought I will stay with the brand. I could get a Trek they seem nice also. Would this forum recomend a Trek over a R5 ?

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No, also because the finish on the 2011 Cervelo's has improved


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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:27 pm 
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I admit I have extreme bias for Cervelo, but logically, from a technical standpoint, the R5 kicks serious ass. There are very very few frames that even come close. I am a huge aero lover, but you already have a SLC, get the R5 for climbing and sprinting


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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:43 pm 
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The R5 sounds very nice but we now next to nothing about it's actual performance, confirmed weight or price.

The geometry is disappointing, it reads like the frame is being designed for 40 year olds to ride on a cycle path.


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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:51 pm 
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Danton wrote:
The geometry is disappointing, it reads like the frame is being designed for 40 year olds to ride on a cycle path.


I think the increased head tube lengths are a great idea; people can now ride their R5s without a stack of spacers under the stem. I am sure those very flexible folks that want to achieve a very low position will be able to get low enough by running no spacers/-17 degree stem.

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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
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fa63 wrote:

I think the increased head tube lengths are a great idea; people can now ride their R5s without a stack of spacers under the stem. I am sure those very flexible folks that want to achieve a very low position will be able to get low enough by running no spacers/-17 degree stem.


I agree. The geo for the new R5 is much more user friendly and more practical. Use no spacers + -17 stem and you are good to go.


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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:18 pm 
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Each to their own but on a 56cm R3 the frame had a 14cm head tube. Already quite a bit, no?


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 Post subject: Re: Cervelo R5 or S3
PostPosted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:03 pm 
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Each to their own but on a 56cm R3 the frame had a 14cm head tube. Already quite a bit, no?


The Cervelo website lists the head tube length on the 56cm R3 as 16 cm, which is pretty standard. I think the new head tube lengths are supposedly 20mm longer, so you would have a 18 cm head tube for the R5. On my current bike which has a 55 cm effective top tube and a 17.5 cm head tube (including the external headset cups), I run a zero-degree rise stem with no spacers and end up with about 10 cm of drop which is a bit more than the average rider. So I think the 18 cm head tube will allow most riders to achieve a good position without having to resort to no more than 25 mm of spacers, while at the same time allowing for an aggressive position for those that want/need it with the use of no spacers and -17 degree stem.

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