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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 9:50 am 
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spud wrote:
Cortizone as the preferred PED? When it can be detected in any piss test and or blood test?


Who cares about tests when you can get a TUE?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 2:05 am 
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Johnny Rad wrote:
...and Horner was definitely wearing the previously discussed "stretch overshoes" to mask whatever real shoe brand he was wearing.


http://inrng.com/2014/05/thursday-shorts-12/

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Congratulations, thank you, godspeed. "Shut up retirement".
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Someone's edited wikipedia already!

Jens Voigt (born 17 September 1971) is a true legend and a former German professional road bicycle racer (shut up retirement) for UCI ProTeam Trek Factory Racing.[1]

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 12:06 pm 
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Gilbert testing some new shoes?

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Contador finishing in first group today - this shows he's going for GC I believe :)


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Tinkoff Saxo on zipp wheels at Vattenfall.
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But still Roval wheels at the Vuelta.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:21 pm 
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Surprised Contador doesn't have a custom wheel build for the mountains.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 25, 2014 8:33 pm 
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Fabu complaining on Twitter about the hot weather in Spain. That is probably going to help.

Somebody please give them a placebo thermostat and get on with it. On the other hand if this was China I'm sure the authorities would've ordered everyone living along the course to open their fridges and freezers and blow the cold air out at the riders passing! ;-)


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 26, 2014 3:22 am 
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KWalker wrote:

Apparently you don't know that cortisone and corticosteroids are different things. I am proscribed a bronchidialtor aka inhaler that is a corticosteroid.....
Cortisone used for performance enhancement is another thing altogether and racers are not allowed to race at all while undergoing cortisone treatments. This is not what Horner was denied the ability to race for.


Hey KWalker, read this in a friendly way but you are misinformed. :) Cortisone is a natural steroid hormone produced by the adrenal glands that is a corticosteroid. Further bronchodilators are not steroids, they are beta-agonists. Anyway..... You can get oral coritcosteroids and/or you can get an orally inhaled corticosteroid, both of which decrease inflammation in the bronchi . Many times both are prescribed for bronchitis. The oral corticosteroid is far more likely to decrease endogenous production of cortisol/cortisone, etc. by the adrenal glands than is an oral inhaled corticosteroid as you alluded to regarding your own use of steroids. :smartass:

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Lol I love the term "own use of steroids" regarding a commonly prescribed asthma medication. Never thought of it that way, but got the TUE regardless. The process of getting the TUE was a PITA, but I digress. Thanks for clarifying the two. From what I understood Horner took the same type of medication for the same reason I take it, which is different than taking exogenous cortisone for performance enhancement.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:21 am 
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And Lance Armstrong had a (post-dated) TUE for a cortisone containing cream for saddle sores.

The treatment the TUE covers and the protection from positive tests that it actually provides are not necessarily the same thing.


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Reliving US National Championships

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Team Smartstop 1/2.... and then there's Alex Howes... (also seen banging his bars in the video)
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