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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:47 pm 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:45 am 
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Wait Ted, I thought you despised dopers? Horner has long been thought to be extremely dirty, just lucky he hadn't ever been caught.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:35 am 
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Chuck in a mass start or TT cyclocross stage for the most complete rider I say

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:39 am 
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Nibali has ridden well, and used his team wisely. Contador is also riding carefully and staying near the front but not burning himself out. We are not even 1/3 into the TDF, but so far it has been really exciting racing with a few favourites out due to injury.
A lot of young riders showing their potential and making for exciting viewing


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:20 am 
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KWalker wrote:
Wait Ted, I thought you despised dopers? Horner has long been thought to be extremely dirty, just lucky he hadn't ever been caught.


But Frischkorn suggests that there were also several other American riders who decided to take a different direction. He cites some well-known riders who were utilizing EPO programs during the Saturn years, and who had “unnatural” performance breakthroughs. “People knew it – that EPO could really change their performance.” Frischkorn tells of one older rider – still active in the professional peloton – who essentially explained to him the ropes of EPO usage; where to buy it, how to store it, and how to use it. “It wasn’t anything really dark or evil, and nobody was pressuring anyone. It was more just like your big brother showing you how to do something – just kind of trying to take care of you.”

- http://www.theouterline.com/perspectives-on-doping-in-pro-cycling-3-will-frischkorn/


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:34 am 
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Mudguards?
Probably so the sponsors' logos don't get covered in dirt
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:08 am 
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KWalker wrote:
Wait Ted, I thought you despised dopers? Horner has long been thought to be extremely dirty, just lucky he hadn't ever been caught.


I also despise trolls.

But, apart from heresay, I'm not aware of Horner ever being named or busted in any doping incident or investigation. Innocent until proven guilty. If people want to make insinuations without naming names (Like the Frishkorn quote above) that is simply cowardice and a lack of character on their part. If you're going to point fingers at someone, have the balls to name names and stand behind your words. If Horner was doping I think it would be next to impossible for him to continue at this level without still doping. And it is increasingly difficult for riders to dope today without being caught... especially a guy like Horner who draws a lot of scrutiny due to past associations and recent record-setting victories. But again, until someone can present some irrefutable evidence that he is/was doping, I think of him as a clean rider.

You should too.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:07 am 
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Mudguards?


Looks like an ass-saver ( http://ass-savers.com/collections/all )

Castelli do a branded one - http://blog.castelli-cycling.com/2013/11/14/ass-savers/


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:13 am 
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Ass savers are great, fold up in back pocket of Jersey or I just fit mine and leave it on when rain is expected. Not a full fender but keeps the water and grit off the back of your shorts


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:19 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:50 am 
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Do those bum-flaps they contravene the aero "depth:width" ratio for components? :D ha


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:17 am 
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Ass-saver is a sponsor of Katusha so the only logo they didnt want to cover up was their own.
Those things are kinda funny to me because I used to make my own out of 2 liter bottles back in the day.
Tour has been very interesting I think. Different from just about any other I can remember. Not better but different.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:43 am 
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On the subject of finish bottles I thought mick Rogers looked and sounded impaired in his interview right after the stage. I could be out to lunch but I just got a weird vibe from it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:17 am 
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I'm pretty sure anyone having completed that stage would look impaired. 194km of being wet and cold, backing up a day on the cobbles.
With some serious cross winds just to add to the mix. I think it is pretty normal to be exhausted after a ride like that.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:59 am 
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Still think Contador can get that time back over Nibali in the mountains.

Nibali cannot stay with explosions on the hills and doesn't have Wiggins power to pull them back.

TT Contador has a slight edge also



Nibali isn't exactly a mug going uphill. You don't win the giro and podium in multiple grand tours without being able to climb. He may not be explosive but I'm pretty confident he'll be there with contador on the climbs. if he can climb with wiggins and froome and 2012, and dominate uran, rodrigeuz and valverde last year I don't see why he won't give contador a good run for his money. Plus, he is far and away the best descender in the peloton.

TT wise you're right. contador may have a slight edge. But it's really too close to call between them.

Exciting to see what plays out!


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