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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 12:20 pm 
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meanwhile, in a parallel reality, the Trek management confirmed Schlecks' presence in their promising TdF squad... :shock:

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AS will no doubt dislocate something between now and then, thus ruling himself out.

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So, is Salbutamol performance enhancing or not? It is for some, not for others?


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:21 pm 
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Interesting that Ulissi pops for an inhaler at Giro but Froome's is OK. I wonder how much salbutamol was flowing through Froom's veins when he got his special TUE. I'm in agreement with those who believe that a rider who needs this stuff to compete through illness is too ill to compete.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2014/06/news/lampre-ulissi-tested-positive-banned-substance-giro_333381


Hard to tell, but the TUE was for Prednisolone and not Salbutamol, as a TUE hasn't been required for the latter since 2011, see above postings. Quite a few are likely to be using Salbutamol, as it requires no form of approval except perhaps a note from the doctor to purchase it. The effects are questionable unless you really have asthma. However, dopers are ahead of the curve and maybe there is an unknow effect of the drug, perhaps as some form of masking agent. >1000ng/ml or whatever is an aweful lot of puffs.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:06 pm 
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Albuterol (Salbutamol) is also available as oral tablets or syrup.

Interesting reference, or maybe not, as I do not pretend to be a doctor or pharmacist:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22081503
"Salbutamol concentrations following inhalation were commonly (99%) below 1000 ng/ml whereas values after oral administration frequently (48%) exceeded this threshold."


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:29 pm 
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I can't find the post, but Hamish Ferguson posted on FB last night that in studies salbutamol has not been found to be performance enhancing in both asthmatic and non-asthmatic athletes.

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The same substance that got Petacchi banned. I think it was a bit over allowed dosage on that case too. He didn't get off well.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:05 pm 
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Illuminate wrote:
2nd problem: graph on left presents super six evo black whole bike weight data. Frame weight graph on right, however, quotes super six evo high mod frame weight rather than the black's ballistec weight of 655g (ref: http://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/cannondal ... -3920.html)


I believe the bigger problem there is the presence of the word 'claimed' :P

That said, regardless of what the 'Dale or Trek actually end up weighing I'd love to see the build list and price on the 4.6kg Emondo - I've had my hands on the Evo Back and it is not cheap!


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It seems crazy that Gesink is back full gas racing 6 weeks after heart surgery but what do I know. Any GP's or heart surgeon weenies that can comment?


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Wiggins has confirmed that he won't be riding the Tour de France this year. Froome & Brailsford are going to cop some abuse in Leeds next Saturday.


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KWalker wrote:
I can't find the post, but Hamish Ferguson posted on FB last night that in studies salbutamol has not been found to be performance enhancing in both asthmatic and non-asthmatic athletes.


Yeah I need to hunt down the link but there's been a pretty good study done one this. Basically it helps at rest for people with athsma but goes nothing for people with or without athsma during intense exercise.


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Wiggins has confirmed that he won't be riding the Tour de France this year. Froome & Brailsford are going to cop some abuse in Leeds next Saturday.


The Wiggo fb campaign needs to start printing some Wiggo masks to be handed out at the start!


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It seems crazy that Gesink is back full gas racing 6 weeks after heart surgery but what do I know. Any GP's or heart surgeon weenies that can comment?


He was diagnosed with an unspecified arrhythmia, so I'm guessing it wasn't necessarily surgery involving a cracked-open chest. If he had an ablation or something he could easily be back riding.


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It seems crazy that Gesink is back full gas racing 6 weeks after heart surgery but what do I know. Any GP's or heart surgeon weenies that can comment?


I had minor heart surgery due to arythmia (tachycardia). It's not "mechanical" just an "électric" surgery. One week later I was on trainer to make à conconi test!

Gesink, can race. In his case: surgery works, he's ok. doesn't work, he's like before surgery with same arythmia or with pace maker...

Look at Nicolas Portal, surgery didn't worked, he's now DS for team Sky.


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was it maybe Xenon inhalation?

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