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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 8:38 am 
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So does having a clean peloton mean no climbing heroes that were not born and grew up at 3000m? Will the future be filled with Columbians and Kenyans, memories of Evans and Contador as distant as those of Viren and Zatopek? How do you entice major Western sponsorship to a sport dominated by South Americans and Africans?


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 10:22 am 
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So where does the UCI sock/overshoe height ruling come into play with those things?

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:33 am 
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Brain the size of a planet..

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:53 am 
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airwise wrote:
So does having a clean peloton mean no climbing heroes that were not born and grew up at 3000m? Will the future be filled with Columbians and Kenyans, memories of Evans and Contador as distant as those of Viren and Zatopek? How do you entice major Western sponsorship to a sport dominated by South Americans and Africans?


i'd obviously argue with the notion of having a 'clean peloton'. if we can learn anything from the past, it's - no matter what - something's deffinitelly going on in the cheating/doping department

as for Colombians, maybe they just have a good generation coming out, well trained, well prepared, just like Poles have. AFAIK there's no 'programme' for youth in both cases, just a question of pure coincidence, that few young cyclists happen to be very good.

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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 11:56 am 
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The reference was more to the long-standing critique of Cadel, going back for much of his career, that he spends most of the time behind people rather than attacking.
Perhaps I should have been more clear.


Evans put that to bed a long time ago. How did he win the WC, attacking at the right time. Did you see his tour win. Did you see how he was performing at that time. He was incredible and attacking. Jesus what a stupid post


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 12:19 pm 
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tymon_tm wrote:
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OGE, with their budget


They don't have a particularly big budget do they? Only one sponsor and all.

Not saying they are super poor, but I would have thought they are only midrange?

Wiggins is a very recognisable name though and might be enough to attract another sponsor, especially given OGE's successful year so far.


maybe just one sponsor, but with very deep pockets: Orica's net profit for 2013 was over 600 million $. looks like they can easily throw few extra bucks to sign a star Wiggo, no?


I doubt that. They sponsor the team to try and make themselves look good in their home market. They don't generate any sales out of it (they are a mining service company).

Provided OGE "projects a positive image" in Australia they are happy. I doubt they care if they win or lose too much.

Gerry Ryan is the real force behind OGE. He cares a lot about if the team wins or loses, but I'm not sure he's going to put in more of his own money.

But there isn't much money in cycling, and companies aren't exactly lining up to get on board.

Maybe Wiggins comes on board on a small salary with big bonuses, and they find sponsors prepared to pay if they win a TdF.


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 12:29 pm 
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kenny dehaes. so unfair. was he allowed to start today?


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Pretty sure Ryder had a extra bike change with a flat or a mechanical.


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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 1:38 pm 
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Pretty sure Ryder had a extra bike change with a flat or a mechanical.


yes and if I remember correctly... Garmin mechanic run back to the car and didn't push him :o
Must find the video, it was a glimpse of few seconds.
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http://www.raisport.rai.it/dl/raiSport/ ... 95585.html
here, after 2h38min... seems the mechanic cares more about "his" bike or get caught in the confusion LOL

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Wow Rogers topping the Zoncolan. What's next? Helping Contador win the Tour :-)

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Well done micky. Zoncolan is an awesome achievement.


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And here is the confirmation of the GC:



1 Nairo Alexander Quintana Rojas (Col) Movistar Team 83:50:25
2 Rigoberto Uran Uran (Col) Omega Pharma - Quick-Step Cycling Team 0:03:07
3 Fabio Aru (Ita) Astana Pro Team 0:04:04
4 Pierre Rolland (Fra) Team Europcar 0:05:46
5 Domenico Pozzovivo (Ita) AG2R La Mondiale 0:06:41
6 Rafal Majka (Pol) Tinkoff-Saxo 0:07:13
7 Wilco Kelderman (Ned) Belkin Pro Cycling Team 0:11:09
8 Cadel Evans (Aus) BMC Racing Team 0:12:00
9 Ryder Hesjedal (Can) Garmin Sharp 0:13:35
10 Robert Kiserlovski (Cro) Trek Factory Racing 0:15:49

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Micky's redemption. 2 stage wins with a grand total of zero race day prior to the Giro. He sure had a lot to vent after that Chinese meat shenanigan...


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